The dealer screwed me, let me tell you how...
#1
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
The dealer screwed me, let me tell you how...
Can't believe it. I just went in for a simple annual oil change...
Got my car back after they found a mystery oil pan leak back in December which took them 12 days to finish. This time around the follow up leak (turbo oil return line) only took 11 days to fix. Guess what? While driving home I get a Check Engine Light! ran a quick test using Carista and it gave me 2 codes: P040B & P0033. Haven't had the chance to run it through VCDS for a full diagnostic but P0033 doesn't look good to me. Hoping P040B is a simple sensor. Also noticed that when I wind up the turbo and release the petal I hear some sort of squeak from the turbo. Hard to explain but it's not normal. Back to the dealership we go...for the 3rd time.
I'll post the full diagnostic when I run it.
Got my car back after they found a mystery oil pan leak back in December which took them 12 days to finish. This time around the follow up leak (turbo oil return line) only took 11 days to fix. Guess what? While driving home I get a Check Engine Light! ran a quick test using Carista and it gave me 2 codes: P040B & P0033. Haven't had the chance to run it through VCDS for a full diagnostic but P0033 doesn't look good to me. Hoping P040B is a simple sensor. Also noticed that when I wind up the turbo and release the petal I hear some sort of squeak from the turbo. Hard to explain but it's not normal. Back to the dealership we go...for the 3rd time.
I'll post the full diagnostic when I run it.
I forgot to mention that the first time I brought my car in, when they discovered the mystery oil pan leak, I busted the service manager in a lie when she told me my car was still being worked on and I had to wait another day. Well I told her that I was currently looking at the detail guy wash my vehicle through the cameras mounted inside both front and back. Turns out they scuffed a panel and needed to wait until morning for the guy to fix it. This time when I got my vehicle back both cameras were unplugged. BASTARDS!
#2
AudiWorld Super User
Life is full of surprises. I wish I could log in to audi garage ip camera network so I could see the mechanic working on to my Q5. That would give me a piece of mind.
Ford and Honda have a large screen glass where if you wish you can look at the mechanic working on your car.
Audi car unfortunately goes underground with security code to handle the lift and garage doors..
Ford and Honda have a large screen glass where if you wish you can look at the mechanic working on your car.
Audi car unfortunately goes underground with security code to handle the lift and garage doors..
#3
AudiWorld Super User
Sorry to hear that unfortunately quality dealer consistency does not exist. They should be up-front about scratching/damaging a car but some are not.
Unfortunately best answer is usually "take it to a different dealer next time".
On the technical side....Does it give more details on those codes?
P040B might be an EGR temp sensor. They probably forget to connect it after working on the car.
P0033 might be bypass valve related, again maybe they didn't plug it back in
IIRC squeak on release can sometime be wastegate related, make sure they did not somehow damage that.
Good luck.
Unfortunately best answer is usually "take it to a different dealer next time".
On the technical side....Does it give more details on those codes?
P040B might be an EGR temp sensor. They probably forget to connect it after working on the car.
P0033 might be bypass valve related, again maybe they didn't plug it back in
IIRC squeak on release can sometime be wastegate related, make sure they did not somehow damage that.
Good luck.
#4
AudiWorld Senior Member
I figured this has gone off topic a bit so why not start a new thread. I'm sure other people have gotten the run-a-round from their local dealership.
I forgot to mention that the first time I brought my car in, when they discovered the mystery oil pan leak, I busted the service manager in a lie when she told me my car was still being worked on and I had to wait another day. Well I told her that I was currently looking at the detail guy wash my vehicle through the cameras mounted inside both front and back. Turns out they scuffed a panel and needed to wait until morning for the guy to fix it. This time when I got my vehicle back both cameras were unplugged. BASTARDS!
I forgot to mention that the first time I brought my car in, when they discovered the mystery oil pan leak, I busted the service manager in a lie when she told me my car was still being worked on and I had to wait another day. Well I told her that I was currently looking at the detail guy wash my vehicle through the cameras mounted inside both front and back. Turns out they scuffed a panel and needed to wait until morning for the guy to fix it. This time when I got my vehicle back both cameras were unplugged. BASTARDS!
#6
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Nice. Preferable I would say. A transparent garage has nothing to hide.
#7
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
VCDS gave me 6 Engine faults. Strangely it didn't spit out P0033 where Carista did. Hmmmm
I cleared them and the same 6 appeared so I think they're here to stay.
Any insight would be appreciated
Thanks
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Thursday,24,January,2019,10:14:55:18700
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64) HEX-NET CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
Ross-Tech: Home
Address 01: Engine Labels: 059-907-401-V2.clb
Control Module Part Number: 8K5 907 401 J HW: 4G0 907 401 E
Component and/or Version: 3.0TDI FSA H14 0011
Software Coding: 2A2A4012052603050000
Work Shop Code: WSC 13926 002 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0118K5907401J 002011 (AU48)
ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0118K5907401J_002.rod
VCID: 373EE2A38E0488F224-8062
6 Faults Found:
4327 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [032] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
4698 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [032] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
4699 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [032] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
13156 - EGR Temperature Sensor 1
P040B 00 [168] - Implausible Signal
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Mileage: 45267 km
Date: 2019.01.22
Time: 13:48:22
Engine speed: 1195.50 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 52 km/h
Coolant temperature: 93 ∞C
Intake air temperature: 26 ∞C
Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.500 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Mean injection quantity: 0.00 mg/stroke
Exh.gas temp.sen 1: 241.3 ∞C
Temp sensor for EGR after cooler: raw value: 109.0 ∞C
EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation: 25.00 %
Exhaust mass flow of EGR: 63.9 kg/h
Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 175.1 mg/stroke
AS Mod t EGR Ds: 202.3 ∞C
25301 - EGR Temperature Sensor 1
P040B 00 [101] - Implausible Signal
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 45313 km
Date: 2019.01.24
Time: 07:05:43
Engine speed: 1901.00 /min
Normed load value: 80.0 %
Vehicle speed: 64 km/h
Coolant temperature: 45 ∞C
Intake air temperature: 19 ∞C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.000 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine status: COENG_RUNNING
Engine status-Test_Program_Co Eng st COMPU VERB UBYTE: 3
5242 - Fuel Pressure Sensor (G247)
P0191 00 [096] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
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VCDS Release 18.9.0: SRI Reset
Control Module Part Number: 8R0 920 982 A Labels: .8R0-920-xxx-17.clb
Component:KOMBIINSTR. H35 0564, Coding:83BF22001301D705020000
Operation: Please select an operation
************************************************** ************************************************** ********************
Channel Description Unit Current val. New val.
02 Service Reminder Status 1 ---
40 Distance since Service km x100 5 ---
41 Time since Service Days 51 ---
42 Minimum Distance to Service km x100 150 ---
43 Maximum Distance to Service km x100 150 ---
44 Maximum Time to Service Days 365 ---
45 Oil Quality 1 ---
47 Soot Quantity DIST x100 10 ---
48 Thermal Load DIST x100 9 ---
49 Minimum Time to Service Days 0 ---
50 Basic Distance Value for Oil Change DIST x100 0 ---
51 Basic Time Value for Oil Change Days 0 ---
52 Basic Distance Value for Inspection DIST x100 0 ---
53 Distance since Inspection DIST x100 0 ---
54 Basic Time Value for Inspection Days 0 ---
55 Time since Inspection Days 0 ---
56 Day Counter Days 0 ---
************************************************** ************************************************** ********************
I cleared them and the same 6 appeared so I think they're here to stay.
Any insight would be appreciated
Thanks
__________________________________________________ ________________________________________
Thursday,24,January,2019,10:14:55:18700
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64) HEX-NET CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
Ross-Tech: Home
Address 01: Engine Labels: 059-907-401-V2.clb
Control Module Part Number: 8K5 907 401 J HW: 4G0 907 401 E
Component and/or Version: 3.0TDI FSA H14 0011
Software Coding: 2A2A4012052603050000
Work Shop Code: WSC 13926 002 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0118K5907401J 002011 (AU48)
ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0118K5907401J_002.rod
VCID: 373EE2A38E0488F224-8062
6 Faults Found:
4327 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [032] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
4698 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [032] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
4699 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [032] - -
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
13156 - EGR Temperature Sensor 1
P040B 00 [168] - Implausible Signal
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Mileage: 45267 km
Date: 2019.01.22
Time: 13:48:22
Engine speed: 1195.50 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 52 km/h
Coolant temperature: 93 ∞C
Intake air temperature: 26 ∞C
Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.500 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Mean injection quantity: 0.00 mg/stroke
Exh.gas temp.sen 1: 241.3 ∞C
Temp sensor for EGR after cooler: raw value: 109.0 ∞C
EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation: 25.00 %
Exhaust mass flow of EGR: 63.9 kg/h
Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke): 175.1 mg/stroke
AS Mod t EGR Ds: 202.3 ∞C
25301 - EGR Temperature Sensor 1
P040B 00 [101] - Implausible Signal
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 45313 km
Date: 2019.01.24
Time: 07:05:43
Engine speed: 1901.00 /min
Normed load value: 80.0 %
Vehicle speed: 64 km/h
Coolant temperature: 45 ∞C
Intake air temperature: 19 ∞C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.000 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine status: COENG_RUNNING
Engine status-Test_Program_Co Eng st COMPU VERB UBYTE: 3
5242 - Fuel Pressure Sensor (G247)
P0191 00 [096] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VCDS Release 18.9.0: SRI Reset
Control Module Part Number: 8R0 920 982 A Labels: .8R0-920-xxx-17.clb
Component:KOMBIINSTR. H35 0564, Coding:83BF22001301D705020000
Operation: Please select an operation
************************************************** ************************************************** ********************
Channel Description Unit Current val. New val.
02 Service Reminder Status 1 ---
40 Distance since Service km x100 5 ---
41 Time since Service Days 51 ---
42 Minimum Distance to Service km x100 150 ---
43 Maximum Distance to Service km x100 150 ---
44 Maximum Time to Service Days 365 ---
45 Oil Quality 1 ---
47 Soot Quantity DIST x100 10 ---
48 Thermal Load DIST x100 9 ---
49 Minimum Time to Service Days 0 ---
50 Basic Distance Value for Oil Change DIST x100 0 ---
51 Basic Time Value for Oil Change Days 0 ---
52 Basic Distance Value for Inspection DIST x100 0 ---
53 Distance since Inspection DIST x100 0 ---
54 Basic Time Value for Inspection Days 0 ---
55 Time since Inspection Days 0 ---
56 Day Counter Days 0 ---
************************************************** ************************************************** ********************
Last edited by Dudealicious; 01-24-2019 at 09:31 AM.
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#8
AudiWorld Super User
"13156 - EGR Temperature Sensor 1
P040B 00 [168] - Implausible Signal"
Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that.
"Implausible" means the ECU the ECU is getting signal that is totally out of bounds. Which if you are lucky means it was unplugged, even though that condition IS totally plausible to a good programmer.
I've seen plenty of glass walls in service areas, but nothing like the typical car wash where you can walk down the entire length and see everything. Usually, the "glass wall" is just at one end of maybe 10-20 bays, giving you not much to see. As digicams get smaller and cheaper still...but then again, there are often state laws against secret video recording in the US.
Sometimes my car gets a bit of special attention, having a rather loud OSHA-compliant backup alarm on it, which pretty much disrupts any shop it is in. And lets me know it is backing out of a service bay, window or not.(G)
P040B 00 [168] - Implausible Signal"
Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that.
"Implausible" means the ECU the ECU is getting signal that is totally out of bounds. Which if you are lucky means it was unplugged, even though that condition IS totally plausible to a good programmer.
I've seen plenty of glass walls in service areas, but nothing like the typical car wash where you can walk down the entire length and see everything. Usually, the "glass wall" is just at one end of maybe 10-20 bays, giving you not much to see. As digicams get smaller and cheaper still...but then again, there are often state laws against secret video recording in the US.
Sometimes my car gets a bit of special attention, having a rather loud OSHA-compliant backup alarm on it, which pretty much disrupts any shop it is in. And lets me know it is backing out of a service bay, window or not.(G)
#9
AudiWorld Super User
Try a full VCDS scan you have 6 faults but only 3 are in the engine. The EGT sensor 1 and the fuel pressure sensor. The other 3 are in other modules but may be effecting the engine module.
#10
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Thread Starter
I did a full but only posted the engine results.
Here's the results of the other faults.
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 P HW: 8R0 907 468 D
Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H11 0060
Revision: 1Z120030 Serial number: 3041Z1430200B5
Coding: 80CF07FF00
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: CCD42D4F6F829B2AF9-8098
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 915 181 C HW: 8R0 915 181 C
Component: J367-BDMHella H07 8043
Serial number: 1516202803
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663 B HW: 8K0 959 663 B
Component: J532_DCDCStab H05 0006
Serial number: 14073001621021200410
2 Faults Found:
02256 - Quiescent Current
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 12
Reset counter: 182
Mileage: 44809 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.12.14
Time: 17:24:01
03041 - Energy Management Active
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 34
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 44809 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.12.14
Time: 20:22:48
Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000
Voltage: 12.30 V
Count: 7
Here's the results of the other faults.
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 P HW: 8R0 907 468 D
Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H11 0060
Revision: 1Z120030 Serial number: 3041Z1430200B5
Coding: 80CF07FF00
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: CCD42D4F6F829B2AF9-8098
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 915 181 C HW: 8R0 915 181 C
Component: J367-BDMHella H07 8043
Serial number: 1516202803
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663 B HW: 8K0 959 663 B
Component: J532_DCDCStab H05 0006
Serial number: 14073001621021200410
2 Faults Found:
02256 - Quiescent Current
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 12
Reset counter: 182
Mileage: 44809 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.12.14
Time: 17:24:01
03041 - Energy Management Active
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 34
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 44809 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.12.14
Time: 20:22:48
Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000
Voltage: 12.30 V
Count: 7