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IntheQ5 09-01-2015 11:20 AM

DIY Remote start Q5
 
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I just had some time for myself and hooked up a remote start for my Q.
So I'd figured since winter is coming soon and have seen quite a few thread people asking about it, I would do a write up. Since alot, if not all, dealers will not install one, this could help out some folks.

Please, lets not start arguing if idling the engine too long will cause carbon build up or oil consumption, kill the trees that is next to the vehicle, or if we have to move down south,etc.

Remote start is a luxury and there is only 2 reason why a person needs it:
1. It is F'in freezing!
2. It is hot as hell! (Less likely to be the reason)



Side note: I do not work for a shop, I have done about a dozen or so remote start on friends and family vehicle and the Q is by far the easiest I have ever done. Maybe technology have caught up making the install simpler.




Parts:
DBALL2 $50 (will come blank, will need to be flash)
XKLoader2 $25 (use for flashing software to the dball2)
Optional - Smartstart add-on to the dball2 for used with smartphone $200
- XL202 add-on to dball2 for range booster, used with aftermarket remote (viper,python avital) *this is what Im using because the OEM remote range is very limited and I like the 2way confirmation so i don't have to look outside to see if the car had started* My OEM FOB will still work with 3x lock to start.
http://www.directechs.com
This is the website to download the flashing software for your vehicle.
Download the XpressVIP (its a web base software)
*ONLY works with windows explorer*
Create an account, its free.
Enter your vehicle info and instruction wiring diagram for RSR will be listed.
M8 Triple square bit
T25 bit
8mm, 10mm socket
12v relay 30amp with harness
3x 1amp Diodes
SOldering iron
Electric tape

*You need to give up a valet key or a fob key* There is no hack around German cars. I used a FOB with battery removed because I didn't have a valet key when I purchased my car used.

Courtesy of http://http://12vsupport.blogspot.co...ote-start.html shows what you are getting into.
Use this guide but some part wasn't clear and I will post them up to clear things up.

Please solder all connections 1 wire at a time and tape it up.
Most of the wire for the install is just tapping in.

1. Remove panel and bracket under steering wheel per instruction on Courtesy website

2. Removing the vents. This is tricky, I thought it was just the outside covers but its not. You will need to wedge the screwdriver deep down to catch the side and wedge the whole thing out. Push it to the side because there is a wire thats glued on to it.
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3.Remove the key cover and remove the top 8mm bolt. Push the ignition back and pull it out underneath.
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Removing the ignition harness: pull the red tab out and then press in the black release tab. Remember to lock down the red tab when installing back.

4. Wrapping the FOB and ignition. I used 22guage solid copper core for best signal.
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Now for the ignition, the Courtesy website and Dball2 instruction states to wrap the ends of the ignition like this but for some odd reason, while testing with the ignition dangling on the bottom, everything works. But when I put the ignition back into the slot and bolt it back, RSR did NOT work.
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After trouble shooting for an hour, this works flawlessly !!
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5. Wiring * study the diagram hard* its really simple once you looked through them thoroughly.

the 3 Diodes to isolate the 3 ignition wires, tap in at the ignition harness
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the 2 CAN wire are in the bunch of wires nearest to the door. There should be a about 3 or 4 pair of twisted set. Look for the orange/green, orange brown twisted set and tap it in.
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Ignition Harness
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Wire up the relay, I used type 2 for no reason.
I cut the gray/yellow
tap in the 3 wires from the 3x diodes

I didnt use the black pin harness on the dball because i was lazy to look for the hood wire.

**Again the instructions Im posting here is just adding on to the Courtesy site http://http://12vsupport.blogspot.co...ote-start.html so just follow there.


Cost under $180 (w/ optional XL202 , 6211t antenna, viper 2way remote)
And a few hours.

phuiiii 09-01-2015 01:04 PM

Nice! Looking forward to this write up. Are you using the factory keyfob to remote start?

audio_video_guy 09-01-2015 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by phuiiii (Post 24720498)
Nice! Looking forward to this write up. Are you using the factory keyfob to remote start?

Second that!

IntheQ5 09-01-2015 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by phuiiii (Post 24720498)
Nice! Looking forward to this write up. Are you using the factory keyfob to remote start?

Yes oem fob 3x lock button.

audio_video_guy 09-01-2015 05:57 PM

Do you need VAG-COM?

Yoshimura 09-01-2015 06:27 PM

Can't wait to see your write up.

Floraudian 09-01-2015 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by IntheQ5 (Post 24720468)
I just had some time for myself and hooked up a remote start for my Q.
So I'd figured since winter is coming soon and have seen quite a few thread people asking about it, I would do a write up. Since alot, if not all, dealers will not install one, this could help out some folks.

Please, lets not start arguing if idling the engine too long will cause carbon build up or oil consumption, kill the trees that is next to the vehicle, or if we have to move down south,etc.

Remote start is a luxury and there is only 2 reason why a person needs it:
1. It is F'in freezing!
2. It is hot as hell! (Less likely to be the reason)

Let me know.

Side note: I do not work for a shop, I have done about a dozen or so remote start on friends and family vehicle and the Q is by far the easiest I have ever done. Maybe technology have caught up making the install simpler.

I am going to need the remote start for reason#2.

IntheQ5 09-01-2015 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by audio_video_guy (Post 24720579)
Do you need VAG-COM?

none needed

ESERIES3 10-06-2015 07:41 AM

Very Nice, do you guys think this same method would work on a 2010 A5?

IntheQ5 10-06-2015 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by ESERIES3 (Post 24730328)
Very Nice, do you guys think this same method would work on a 2010 A5?

According to Directed/Dball2 website, A4 ,A5,Q5, S4,S5 shares the same wiring platform.


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