K-man

Hmm... The image of rear lights shown is not the same as mine.. I wish I had the LED lights with the amber turn indicators. The turn indicators on my car is a bright red blob...;-(

Elberoth

I just did ... well, sort of. I have successfully test fitted one FL headlight today. I was lucky, as nearby body shop just took a 2013 Q5 for headlight / front bumper replacement after a small accident, so we just borrowed one of the headlamps.

2010 headlight on the left and 2013 FL headlight on the right:



Audi part # for the LEFT 2013 FL headlight:



The headlight fits, BUT:

1. you also need to buy a headlight support bracket, as it is completely different:



Audi part # is 8R0 941 453A - this is for the LEFT headlight only:



The new support has one extra mounting hole:



I belive this is Audi solution to the known Q5 headlight jitter problem (when you hit the pothole, you could see the headlights jittering briefly). I belive the extra mounting point is to prevent that from happening, as it supports the weight of the headlight housing from the back. There is also an extra part that connects this support to the car body - I belive it will be retrofitable as well. I will check that tomorrow and will post some more images and hopefully part #s.

2. you need to get harness extension (male to female) as the stock harness will not reach the socket on the FL headlight.

The sockets are the same:



However, the socket on the 2010 headlights is on the side of the headlight housing. On the FL one, the socket is situated right in the middle of the headlight housing:



As a resoult, the stock 2010 harness is just not long enough. You either need a harness extension cable of some sort, or you can cut off the harness socket and solder in 4" of extension cable. For obvious reasons, I would rather NOT do it, unless I have no other choice.

I was able to source one of those harness extenders at the time I had my 2002 Audi A4 several years ago - it was needed when to swap halogen headlamps to HIDs:



As you can see, it is a MALE to FEMALE extender. The sockets on 2002 A4 and Q5 are different though, so the one I have will not fit. Anyone knows where to source a similar extender for a Q5 HID headlights ?

spijun

Well done
Maybe you should try make yourself, I'm not sure there are that part (extender) for purchase
"FEMALE" CONNECTOR
http://www.partsvp.com/products/HOUS...52d737%29.html
http://www.jimellisaudiparts.com/pro...1J0973737.html

I have the numbers of male and female connectors:
1J0-973-837
http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-...2.0T/ES311360/
http://www.jimellisaudiparts.com/pro...1J0973837.html
1J0-973-737
http://www.jimellisaudiparts.com/pro...1J0973737.html
http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_V--2.5/ES8953/

Elberoth

Thanks !


OK, so here is the complete parts list to do the swap:

- headlight support plate left - 8R0 941 453 A
- headlight support plate right - 8R0 941 454 A
- headlight socket MALE - 1J0-973-837 - two pcs needed
- headlight socket FEMALE - 1J0-973-737 - two pcs needed
- headlight support bracket left - 8R0 941 355
- headlight support bracket right - 8R0 941 356
- headlight adjustment element - 4G8 806 305 - two pcs needed
- allen screw - WHT 000 372 - two pcs needed
- torx screw - N 107 511 01 - four pcs needed

Please note that only the support plates and sockets are mandatory for this swap - all other parts are were added by Audi to fix the 'headlight jitter' problem that was present on 2010 Q5s. Not sure if that is was a part of a FL, or those parts were already present on 2011 and 2012 cars. Someone with 2011/2012 car would have to verify that.

I have paid like $70 for all those parts. Should have them in 2 days time.

I will post images showing the headlight support bracket and how it is fitted on 2013 Q5 tomorrow.

TonySCV

Bravo for taking the time to figure this out!

Elberoth

BTW - I have also confirmed, that to do a complete FL conversion (with the FL front bumper), you would also need a FL bonnet.

Elberoth

Just got today 4 brand-spanking-new fronts and rears. $1400 total shipped. I still expect to get at least $800 back from selling my current pre FL rears and fronts on ebay.

Life is good

Elberoth

OK, some more images.

Here is the original headlight socket - 1J0 973 737. I will need to DIY my own cable extension using another socket like that and its male counterpart 1J0 973 837. Luckily, all the cables are numbered, so that would make soldering much easier:



Here is the headlight support bracket that is missing on my 2010 Q5:



It is bolted to the car frame - I will probably have to drill 2 holes to attach it:



The headlight support bracket ataches to the rear fixing of the headlight support plate - making the headlight much more rigid, and hopefully - less prone to light beam jitter.

AudiQ5sleeper

how much just for the rear?

Elberoth

I paid $450 for the rears.