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Old 10-21-2016, 10:58 AM
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Details to be announced. Can't wait!

Audi to Buy Back 25,000 3.0-Liter Diesel Models in U.S.: Report

Says Q7s atm, but Q5s will surely follow.

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Not enough info there. You can't tell which of the motor/emissions generations are affected. If anything, the text seems to focus on the vehicle model. But various generations of the 3.0TDI system and related emissions controls should be what matter, and in turn which generations are in which models. Much older Q7's and Touareg's would have the Gen 1' set ups and might be the most suspect. Perhaps even more hard to decipher, if the emissions requirements got tougher by model year, it could actually be later ones that are more problematic. Not enough granularity to the text, plus it is a (respected) non-U.S. publication dealing with engines sold in many markets trying to tie it off to the U.S. spec ones.Thus even the vehicle count mentioned really can't be tied off without more info.

Bigger picture, the direction (likely buyback of at least some) doesn't surprise me. Lots of time passed and no obvious answer so far--for what has now been a year basically.

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^ Yes that's the upshot. But it's damn promising and as you say... the delays only support a buy back. If they could be fixed then they would have been.

One possibility is VW attempting to not only get the best deal of course, but also to push the loss into the next fiscal year.
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If this ends up being true, and applies to my '14, I am a very happy guy today!
(OT, but after over a week of negotiations struck a deal today to trade my '12 cayenne for a new LR4, picking it up next week on my birthday!)
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I'm a skeptic until I see the paperwork but here's to hoping
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"YEEHAW! Audi to Buy Back 3.0L TDIs"
Not mine they won't ! If they come for it I'll hide it in the woods.I love my Tdi and nothing is going to be a better option - power & fuel economy and reliability so just leave me alone. Hopefully living in the woods of Quebec - no stinkin e- testing will keep then away. We'll see.
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The report I read states it only applies to the older Q7 (and probably the early Toureags), and that the later versions, including the Q5, are not included. Sounds like 2013 is the likely cutoff.
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Originally Posted by atc98092 View Post
The report I read states it only applies to the older Q7 (and probably the early Toureags), and that the later versions, including the Q5, are not included. Sounds like 2013 is the likely cutoff.
Erm, yeah. Scroll up.
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Erm, yeah. Scroll up.
Nothing up there confirms anything but the early models.
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Originally Posted by Deckardk View Post
^ Yes that's the upshot. But it's damn promising and as you say... the delays only support a buy back. If they could be fixed then they would have been.

One possibility is VW attempting to not only get the best deal of course, but also to push the loss into the next fiscal year.
Fiscal year likely makes no difference. This is likely a 'continent liability'. According to GAAP

"A contingent liability is a potential liability that may occur, depending on the outcome of an uncertain future event. A contingent liability is recorded in the accounting records if the contingency is probable and the amount of the liability can be reasonably estimated."

Payout and cash flow are a different matter..
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