Originally Posted by Humble Bear

I want the base trim(Premium) with Utopia (or Navara) Blue and brown interior with no options. There is none built without options so far so it has to be a special order. My current lease is due in 4 months so no trade in; don't mind get it sooner. Cash deal.

Originally Posted by Humble Bear

I want the base trim(Premium) with Utopia (or Navara) Blue and brown interior with no options. There is none built without options so far so it has to be a special order. My current lease is due in 4 months so no trade in; don't mind get it sooner. Cash deal.

Originally Posted by markcincinnati

What SCarGuy said is true. Also, remember, NO MATTER WHAT, you will ALWAYS be able to find some "guy" (maybe even a friend or family member) who will tell you "I coulda got it cheaper."

Usually, I call BS on these folks -- although, inevitably there probably is someone, somewhere that got this bonafide better deal. Tough beans.

The deal is NOT just the discount -- especially in the Premium class. The "perks" I have enjoyed since 1977 (the year I bought my first Audi -- from the same dealership I still buy from) are both quite tangible AND pricelessly intangible.

I've told this story before, but it bears repeating: My wife is not the tallest tree in the forest; so, when one Sunday she took her car to the car wash and the attendant to even move the car was forced to move the seat back, the connector between the seat and the power motor went "sproing!" (a technical term), the seat could not be moved to where she could safely drive it.

I was with her, I drove the Audi home -- called the dealer principal AT HOME (he was in the book) and told the story. About 90 minutes later, the service manager with his young son in tow, showed up at our house, remedied the situation, apologized and bid us a good weekend.

How much is THAT worth?

My wife's SQ5, at 80,000 miles lost the "servo motors" that make the fart-sound out of the exhaust system. These things are nearly $390/each -- plus labor. The dealer invoked a program (owner loyalty, implied warranty, "good guy" -- whatever you want to call it) that allowed us to get the parts and labor for free. The service manager apologized for the inconvenience. The thing is, they gave my wife -- just for grins -- a new A8 as a loaner, because she said "I've never driven one of those before." We kept it for a day and overnight whilst the SQ5 had its servos (and its fart-sound) replaced (and restored). The washed and vacuumed car was returned. No charge.

The list of "little" (I don't consider nearly $800 worth of parts little, BTW) things that we have enjoyed over the years is almost countless -- and I will NOT (thankfully, you're saying) bore you with them here.

I will say, when I turned in my 2014 S4 (off of a 42 month lease with a one-month extension) it had 55,000 miles on it. So? The lease mileage allowance was 43,000 miles.

The AFS per mile overage charge is $.25/mile. You do the math, I was 12,000 miles over.

I bought a 2018 S4 which was north of $60,000. I got 6.5% off and my $3,000 overage charge vanished. The folks who claim they got 8% off? Maybe true. Rare, perhaps, but, nonetheless maybe true.

So Friggin' What!?!

I expect (I want) my dealer to remain a going concern -- a profitable going concern. By the same token, I don't want the dealer to make all of that profit from ME, but "dicking around" (another technical term) over another percent or so would be -- at least on my part -- petty and unctuous.

Now: Drive it like you live -- or perhaps, drive it like you WANT to live.

Originally Posted by SCarGuy

cash doesnt net you any better deal - actually can work to your disadvantage as far as final price, for several reasons.

Ultimately though, whether cash, lease or finance - someone is buying the car. The price is still the price

Originally Posted by auntrout

My lessons learned, may not apply to all, is buying something on the lot provides a lot of leverage. I it started search for the Q5 3.0T, I was not interested in the Tech Package or Tow Package, but wanted the Sport Package and 20" 5 spoke wheels. When I met with the dealer to configure this custom build it was quickly apparent that what I would pay for this custom build would pretty much what I would pay for a Q5 3.0T with the Tech, tow package, sport package and the 20" wheels with some negotiation. I hind sight I am soooo glad I got the Tech Package. I'm not all that familiar with the options on the 2018's and their cost, but this was my recent experience getting my Q.

Originally Posted by auntrout

I can say that for my purchase cash was definitely not a disadvantage.

Originally Posted by SCarGuy

Ultimately, it depends. There are additional discounts that are doable on some vehicles that only can be done via financing of one form or another. So sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't. All vehicle and deal specific.

Originally Posted by auntrout

Your right and I stand corrected. I did finance enough of the car to take advantage of the Audi offer at the time to make the first car payment when financed through Audi (at the time I purchased my Q I think it was $700). Immediately after the first month's payment I just paid off the remaining balance on my loan. No issues; I was totally impressed with how Audi handled this and how they pointed this out when I was purchasing my vehicle.

Originally Posted by SCarGuy

Yep, that's part of what a good dealer does

Sometimes it isn't a huge dollar amount to make it worth the little bit of a paperwork to a client (i.e. one of my A3 buyers earlier in May). Other times, it can save significant money.

Originally Posted by markcincinnati

Le Petomane: "I didn't get a "harrumph" out of that guy!" -- Blazing Saddles (one of Mel Brooks finer moments)