Why would anyone get a non hybrid Q5?
I am just wondering why anyone would get the a standard Q5 (45) instead of the plug in hybrid Q5 (55) if they qualify for federal and state tax breaks plus Audi incentives?
I understand that not everyone will qualify for the tax rebate program, but if you do it seems like a no brainer. This is NOT an option for the SQ5, just the standard 4 cylinder model range.... Premium price difference is $8600. Premium plus and prestige price difference is $7,700 The current Federal tax break is $6,712 on the Q5 and about to go up to $7,500 when the larger batteries are installed in the 2022 (hopefully coming to the states this summer). Depending on what state you live in there might be other tax incentives which can be around $1000. Audi currently has incentives on of $500-$1000 (not exactly sure on the exact amount this month). In California the rebates and incentives are greater than $8,000, so it is like getting the plug in hybrid for free. I understand that there is the trade off of the vehicle weighing more, but I just spoke to someone that ordered a new Q5 and did not realized that she could have gotten the plug in for "free" since she would be able to take advantage of all the federal and state rebates (She would have had a total of $8,500 taken off the final cost).. Is there anything that I am not aware of? |
Yeah it may be because the Plug-in isn’t well advertised but yes it’s a no brainer. Some people may not want to deal with plugging if the infrastructure isn’t built out but even a household outlet can charge 1 mile/hour. And it operates as a hybrid.
or people may prefer the SQ5’s V6 It’s faster, more economical and has EV benefits like pre-entry climate conditioning which is the only way to get, from the factory, a remote start. The regenerative brakes will mean less wear on brakes over time too. |
Originally Posted by DBlueQ5
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Yeah it may be because the Plug-in isn’t well advertised but yes it’s a no brainer. Some people may not want to deal with plugging if the infrastructure isn’t built out but even a household outlet can charge 1 mile/hour. And it operates as a hybrid.
or people may prefer the SQ5’s V6 It’s faster, more economical and has EV benefits like pre-entry climate conditioning which is the only way to get, from the factory, a remote start. The regenerative brakes will mean less wear on brakes over time too. I'm also not a fan of the government subsidizing our car purchases. |
I wanted the oil sucking power of a V6 and as fast as my 335. If I couldn't have found my SQ5 then we would have ordered an Etron. The next car will likely be my last so it's going to be an S4/S5/RS5.
I have no interest in going slower and I keep the cars stock. I did like how Audi has that wireless charging system, I would have both. |
I should have made it more clear, I am NOT comparing the hybrid to the SQ5, just to the 4 cylinder Q5.
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Originally Posted by aris4n
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I am just wondering why anyone would get the a standard Q5 (45) instead of the plug in hybrid Q5 (55) if they qualify for federal and state tax breaks plus Audi incentives?
I understand that not everyone will qualify for the tax rebate program, but if you do it seems like a no brainer. Premium price difference is $8600. Premium plus and prestige price difference is $7,700 The current Federal tax break is $6,712 on the Q5 and about to go up to $7,500 when the larger batteries are installed in the 2022 (hopefully coming to the states this summer). Depending on what state you live in there might be other tax incentives which can be around $1000. Audi currently has incentives on of $500-$1000 (not exactly sure on the exact amount this month). In California the rebates and incentives are greater than $8,000, so it is like getting the plug in hybrid for free. I understand that there is the trade off of the vehicle weighing more, but I just spoke to someone that ordered a new Q5 and did not realized that she could have gotten the plug in for "free" since she would be able to take advantage of all the federal and state rebates (She would have had a total of $8,500 taken off the final cost).. Is there anything that I am not aware of?
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I think that the SQ5 is just a tink faster than the Q5 so it's just a glorified Q5 with a price tag. So since a Q5e is slower by a lot of tinks than the Q5, that would be my issue.
I can't justify dropping the coin for a Etron GT either. I guess I am also biased against EV's, tired of following them going slow uphill and 20mph faster downhill. |
Originally Posted by Weebl
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I think that the SQ5 is just a tink faster than the Q5 so it's just a glorified Q5 with a price tag. So since a Q5e is slower by a lot of tinks than the Q5, that would be my issue.
I can't justify dropping the coin for a Etron GT either. I guess I am also biased against EV's, tired of following them going slow uphill and 20mph faster downhill. |
Those were just icing on my cupcake.
I have the sport diff, dynamic steering and all the Prestige perks. The diffs are Torsen I believe. I was feeling generous at the dealership and bought into the extended warranties since we intend on having it for quite a long time so I didn't want a TD1. The RS5 might cure that 400hp itch but then again as an electrician the torque curve of an electric motor is enticing. Getting my EV infrastructure certification very soon. |
The level of complexity of any hybrid vehicle makes the chance of an expensive out of warranty issue much more likely if you keep it long enough.
Many repairs and parts are only available at the dealer and with no or extremely few independent repair places to keep prices in check major repairs could be crippling. There are many old Prius’s on the road that only the ICE is working with cost to get the car back to being a hybrid costing 4 times what the car is worth. It is too early to know if a Q5E out of warranty can be made to run without it’s hybrid system working like a Prius. So far when there are bad hybrid system faults we need a flat bed to the dealer. Many buyers don’t need the extra power or complexity. The regular Q5 is far from a simple vehicle but compared to a Q5E it sure is. |
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