Winter tires necessary?
#11
Night and day. Summer tires will be awful and dangerous. You'll wonder why you bothered with all wheel drive.
Can I get by occasional snow without a winter set
or should I invest in a set of winter wheels?
Which size would be best? I see 18, 19, or 20” are available.
Good luck
#12
AudiWorld Senior Member
I just bought a new ‘18 SQ5 and they have the 21” summer tires. How much of a difference will using a winter set make in snow? Can I get by occasional snow without a winter set or should I invest in a set of winter wheels? Which size would be best? I see 18, 19, or 20” are available.
Good luck whatever you do.......
#13
AudiWorld Member
Your SQ5's summer tires should not be driven below 7 C (45 F).
For best traction and safety in snow, consider 18" or 19" winter tires and wheels. The smaller the wheel and the narrower tire, the better.
Tire Rack is a good source of information.
For best traction and safety in snow, consider 18" or 19" winter tires and wheels. The smaller the wheel and the narrower tire, the better.
Tire Rack is a good source of information.
#14
The following is meant only to nuance the underlined part of this advice as it is really only true in deep snow - which most urban drivers do not encounter very often - and really it is the width of the tire patch, not the diameter of the wheel that aids in deep snow traction. The offset is that you lose some traction on plowed and icy surfaces.
I've never read anything convincing that explains why a smaller diameter wheel is truly better in snow, other than that smaller wheels are typically (although not always) narrower.
FWIW, we went with 235/60/18s on my wife's Q5. The OEM wheels take 235/55/19 tires - there is no way I would go to 195s or 205s to get any appreciable and occasional deep snow advantage as a trade-off for losing 10-15% of the tires' contact patch for when the roads are bare or icy which must be about 95% of the winter in these parts.
#15
AudiWorld Member
Solid advice.
The following is meant only to nuance the underlined part of this advice as it is really only true in deep snow - which most urban drivers do not encounter very often - and really it is the width of the tire patch, not the diameter of the wheel that aids in deep snow traction. The offset is that you lose some traction on plowed and icy surfaces.
I've never read anything convincing that explains why a smaller diameter wheel is truly better in snow, other than that smaller wheels are typically (although not always) narrower.
FWIW, we went with 235/60/18s on my wife's Q5. The OEM wheels take 235/55/19 tires - there is no way I would go to 195s or 205s to get any appreciable and occasional deep snow advantage as a trade-off for losing 10-15% of the tires' contact patch for when the roads are bare or icy which must be about 95% of the winter in these parts.
The following is meant only to nuance the underlined part of this advice as it is really only true in deep snow - which most urban drivers do not encounter very often - and really it is the width of the tire patch, not the diameter of the wheel that aids in deep snow traction. The offset is that you lose some traction on plowed and icy surfaces.
I've never read anything convincing that explains why a smaller diameter wheel is truly better in snow, other than that smaller wheels are typically (although not always) narrower.
FWIW, we went with 235/60/18s on my wife's Q5. The OEM wheels take 235/55/19 tires - there is no way I would go to 195s or 205s to get any appreciable and occasional deep snow advantage as a trade-off for losing 10-15% of the tires' contact patch for when the roads are bare or icy which must be about 95% of the winter in these parts.
#16
I'm not sure that the smaller diameter of the wheel offers any advantage in terms of out right performance either in deep snow or on ice, with regard to the contact patch. What the smaller diameter wheel does do for you is offer more options for different snow tires, since snow tires are more commonly made for smaller diameter wheels - you will find more snow tires for 17, 18 and 19 inch wheels than you will find for 20 and 21 inch while keeping the revs per mile (outside diameter of tire) the same. Also, taller sidewalls help with the generally rougher terrain of winter roads in terms of absorbing potholes and other road imperfections which are more common on winter roads and less easily avoided while driving.
#18
AudiWorld Member
I agree - there's zero advantage to the taller sidewall you get with a smaller wheel other than (as you suggest) a bigger selection of tires, lower price, and (arguably) more cushioning for potholes and the like. Cost and selection were the only reason why I went with 18" for the winter tires/wheels on the Q5 (vs the stock 19s).
#19
AudiWorld Member
Yeah, well a couple of things I find that car owners don't always appricate when it comes to fitting different tires/wheels. 1) The importance (for speedo/odo accuracy and correct operation of the tranny) of maintaining the factory original rolling circumference even while changing rim diameter and 2) the huge difference in ride quality even just one inch in rim size can make since tire sidewalls are a primary suspension component. My summer wheels have 20 inch rims and my winters have 18's. Let me tell you, replacing 2" of aluminum with rubber sidewall makes a night and day difference in ride quality - my winter wheels ride like pillows in comparison. Now of course there are other variables like tire pressure and rubber compound that come into play, but all things being equal with tire pressures adjusted correctly according to load and load rating of the tire, it is not debatable that one will give a more plush ride and more protection for your suspension and rims from potholes. Also not debatable is that the handling and quickness of steering will suffer with taller sidewalls since handling is the main reason for low profile tires in the first place (well that and fashion for some) and at the same time the reason they're not needed or even practical on winter roads in inclament weather.
#20
Yeah, well a couple of things I find that car owners don't always appricate when it comes to fitting different tires/wheels. 1) The importance (for speedo/odo accuracy and correct operation of the tranny) of maintaining the factory original rolling circumference even while changing rim diameter and 2) the huge difference in ride quality even just one inch in rim size can make since tire sidewalls are a primary suspension component. My summer wheels have 20 inch rims and my winters have 18's. Let me tell you, replacing 2" of aluminum with rubber sidewall makes a night and day difference in ride quality - my winter wheels ride like pillows in comparison. Now of course there are other variables like tire pressure and rubber compound that come into play, but all things being equal with tire pressures adjusted correctly according to load and load rating of the tire, it is not debatable that one will give a more plush ride and more protection for your suspension and rims from potholes. Also not debatable is that the handling and quickness of steering will suffer with taller sidewalls since handling is the main reason for low profile tires in the first place (well that and fashion for some) and at the same time the reason they're not needed or even practical on winter roads in inclament weather.