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Old 01-02-2019, 09:29 AM
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Default Issues with door handle touch sensor, and central locking button

Has anyone encountered the following trouble codes? How did you get it resolved?

Trouble codes:
00191 - Front passenger exterior door handle touch sensor Short circuit to ground static
00192 - Left rear exterior door handle touch sensor Short circuit to ground static
00193 - Right rear exterior door handle touch sensor Short circuit to ground static
00190 - Driver exterior door handle touch sensor Short circuit to ground static

02126 - Central locking button, exterior door handle Implausible signal static

Here are the details from OBDeleven data log:

Date: 2018-12-17 17:22

Car: Audi Q7
Year: 2009
Body type: SUV
Engine: BHK_ 206 kW (280 HP) 3.6 l
Mileage: 88050 KM

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05 Kessy

System description: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H05
Software number: 4F0910852B
Software version: 0100
Hardware number: 4F0905852D
Hardware version: 242
Serial number: 10602601197986
Coding: 0000135

Subsystems:
System description: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H03
Software number: 4F0910132L
Software version: 0020

System description: FBSAUDIC6 KSG H03
Software number: 4F0910335B
Software version: 0020

System description: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01
Software number: 4F0910220G
Software version: 0040

Trouble codes:
00191 - Front passenger exterior door handle touch sensor Short circuit to ground static
00192 - Left rear exterior door handle touch sensor Short circuit to ground static
00193 - Right rear exterior door handle touch sensor Short circuit to ground static
00190 - Driver exterior door handle touch sensor Short circuit to ground static
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52 Door Electronics Passenger Side

System description: TSG BF
Software number: 4F0959792R
Software version: 0250
Hardware number: 8K0959792D
Hardware version: H11
Serial number: 0000100286684
Long coding: 010D57205E40440004

Trouble codes:
02126 - Central locking button, exterior door handle Implausible signal static

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Old 01-07-2019, 07:40 AM
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Door handles are guaranteed to fail eventually. I've gone through 7 and it doesn't matter if it's the older version or the newer version with the chrome trim. They all die eventually. I've given up trying to replace them at $300 a pop.
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Spend a couple of hours removing each door card and disconnect the cable that goes to the door handles. They just unplug easily and all you need is to cable tie them securely so they don't rattle or impede the window opening.

You will need to lock the car using the key remote but you will still be able to unlock by pulling the door handle with a quick 'double-pull'.
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I have a 2011 Q7. My first proximity sensor door handle failed in 2014, and now out of warranty, all four failed, damaging battery and requiring costly replacement. Many drivers appear to have been facing similar issues but Audi refuses to acknowledge the problem or issue a Technical Service Bulletin so dealers can do their work. I am looking for others who had similar problems and considering legal action. Please PM me for details.
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I would say it's got little chance of success. It's a 7 year old car that a convenience feature has partially stopped working - just accept it.
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Originally Posted by Edd W
I would say it's got little chance of success. It's a 7 year old car that a convenience feature has partially stopped working - just accept it.
Thanks for the advice. Actually, it's not a convenience feature that stopped working. The broken handles drain the battery within hours. The handles burned the battery ($750 to replace), and to drive the car I would have to jump-start every morning. I'd say this is not about convenience and had to change all four handles ($1,800). Again, thanks for the advice, and we shall see.
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I would go back to the original option then - disconnect the plug to each door handle - this will prevent battery drain.

Certainly, in the UK and Europe there would be no chance of any legal success against Audi but maybe in the US you may have luck. The door handles have definitely been unreliable to say the least!
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Thanks - dealership said car computer expects to "see" the sensor handles to function. disconnecting handles or mounting non-sensor handles wouldnt work
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It seems to work fine.

You don't need to change the handles and they will still work for unlocking, just not locking.
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Originally Posted by manosp
Thanks - dealership said car computer expects to "see" the sensor handles to function. disconnecting handles or mounting non-sensor handles wouldnt work
The computer does “look for” the door sensors and I’m sure that it will store a fault code for them if disconnected. Same as when one fails. This does not cause a MIL (light) to be displayed however and does not affect any operation othe than the touch to lock or unlock function however. Over the years we have had four fail. Two on our 2011 Q7 which I never replaced because they were not shorted and did not drain the battery and two on our 2015 that were bad when we bought it from the dealer which I did identify and have replaced under warranty immediately. Our 2015 goes out of warranty soon and when the next one goes I will disconnect it if it shorts to ground and drains the battery. Sounds like a good solution to me.
For what it’s worth, the newer Audis have a different handle that has a proximity sensor to lock the door rather than the push button our 4L Q7s have. I have these on my S5. I’ve never heard of any failures on these. One peculiarity with them is that if you have the key in your pocket while washing the car and spray the door area with water, the doors will lock :-).


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