2013 Q7 TDI - Negotiation?
 

Hey all, newbie here.

I'm looking at a 2013 Q7 TDI with about 47K miles on it (76K km). This is from an Audi dealership, but I understand that they can't sell it as CPO. I read that we are still waiting on what VW will do in terms of reimbursement/compensation or for fixes to get the 3L TDIs compliant.

This Q7 is in awesome shape and is a great price vs the other gas counterparts (cheaper than other 2013 gas models). I assume the lowered price is because this decision has not been finalized yet?

Is there any negotiation tactics I need to do to cover my bases? I guess my biggest worry is that I'll buy it, and then get slapped with a $3K bill to fix it to be compliant. I understand I can purchase extended warranty etc, but is there any specific questions I should be asking before going ahead?

If anyone can help me out then much appreciated! Thanks guys

Does anyone here have any suggestions?

The 2013 has a newer version of the TDI engine and will likely be fixed under recall which means that bringing it into compliance won't cost you anything as it's essentially free warranty work.

That said, we don't know what the fix will be or when it will be available. When it is released it will probably have an effect on some or all of; horsepower, torque, fuel consumption, and urea consumption. The extent of the effect is unknown - it could be negligible or it could be noticeable.

Thanks great to hear that it will be fixed, but I guess there is the unknown risk that it could affect performance. Ok that's good definitely good to know. Thanks for your input!

If you can buy it at a discount then you would already be ahead. Most of us have suffered the loss in value that that discount reflects. As to having the vehicle "fixed", I'll only do that ( or sell it back) if they offer me enough compensation that I would be foolish to turn it down. I like it just the way it is.

If you buy knowing the current issues are AoA going to still pay out for that or will they turn around and state it's your problem?

I doubt you would receive the first half of the compensation at this point since the "Settlement Date" has already taken place for the 3.0L engines. Probably just the 2nd half which is held back to provide incentive for the vehicle to be brought in for the update.

Grey

That makes sense.

So owners of the 3L TDI model on a certain date would get the first payment offered to them (to cover depreciation and losses etc), followed by another payment to bring the vehicle in for updating?

It sounds like the update/fix is not mandatory, but would there be any repercussions for not updating? Unless they provide a really good incentive to get it done, I don't see any real reason to do this as it's more self-serving to Audi and may impact your vehicle's performance.

Well, I'd say the theory is that since your car's value took a huge depreciation hit, most folks want some compensation. Which is only likely available with the fix or turn-in.