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MoInEd 03-28-2024 08:52 AM

last generation (with ICE)
 
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millertic 03-28-2024 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by MoInEd (Post 25896009)


short lived experiment, nobody wants electric, too expensive, no infrastructure etc etc. Governments can’t force a change like this, the market has to. Mercedes has already backed off the EV nutty craze, GM and Honda are partnering to make hydrogen cars which is really the technology we all want and need. ICE cars will still be around for a long time to come even so.

MoInEd 03-28-2024 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by millertic (Post 25896032)
short lived experiment, nobody wants electric, too expensive, no infrastructure etc etc. Governments can’t force a change like this, the market has to. Mercedes has already backed off the EV nutty craze, GM and Honda are partnering to make hydrogen cars which is really the technology we all want and need. ICE cars will still be around for a long time to come even so.

I agree w.r.t EV, I never bought the frenzy and thought not ready yet (infrastructure, batteries, etc). I thought Toyota did the right thing and now others are doing the same with PHEV's (good for short distances).
As for Hydrogen, it's way too difficult to manage the damn thing. Have colleagues who work in that field and they are not optimistic. Both storage and transportation, and all the other things. Some companies are putting money into it but my bets are against it.
Next generation of batteries will change the game (give it another 5 years).

millertic 03-28-2024 11:09 AM

ICE has a 100 year head start on electric, we’ve just reached what seems like the pinnacle of power, efficiency and emissions. Seems utterly stupid to kill it off so some politicians can get rich by investing in that which they’ve mandated. EV will be a good option in time but the free market ingenuity will be what drives it’s development, maybe nuclear fusion will become reality in the next decade and we’ll all have a reactor in our neighborhoods providing abundant clean/cheap energy to go along with some novel battery tech that doesn’t catch fire nearly as often.

GeoJoe 03-28-2024 04:09 PM

Funny to realize the electric car actually predates ICE - but then MPG got better



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