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Old 11-07-2016, 07:01 AM
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Presented without comment (for now): New Discovery Broadens VW Emissions-Cheating Crisis - WSJ
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Old 11-07-2016, 07:18 AM
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There is a thread here in the Q5 forum. https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-...vered-2909091/

There is a mention of the Q7 being involved...if so I have just purchased two Audi vehicles after the initial scandal broke.
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Old 11-07-2016, 07:41 AM
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I'm thinking that the service action for the ECM software update was to remove this cheat.

I have no proof, just a gut feeling. As my 2013 Q5 3.0T and 2014 A7 had this service action but my 2017 Q7 didn't (built in August).
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:13 AM
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The question is what the removal of the cheat does to emissions, fuel efficiency and performance. I'm 2 weeks away from taking delivery of my Q7, but this makes me nervous. I don't want to end up with a paper loss due to the consequences of this cheating (real or presumed by the market) - or worse, end up in limbo like the 3.0 TDI owners..
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The one thing I don't get is transmissions having different shift points during cold and hot operations have been around since at least 1990. Changing to lower shift points when cold to reduce emissions is not some industry secret. But also emissions are suppose to go down after the engine warms up.


I read in the latest MotorTrend(?) an article about the whole VW scandal. Even the professor who caught the cheating TDI software stated that the whole thing was blown out of proportion. My 2017 Q7 is the first AUDI I have owned since about 1988. If the Q7 is in fact part of this new scandal, I will still have a positive view of AUDI. I am sure they will still make good to there customers.
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If CARB is declining to comment I wouldn't take this too seriously. There are several different version of this story going around and they are based on a German newspaper article making this claim. The funny part is the original newspaper didn't name the sources of the information. So for now it's all hearsay.
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Originally Posted by titoj19 View Post
Hm... are you guys signing up for the class action?
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They don't have a 2017 option.
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This is ridiculous. This entire issue is based on information from a German newspaper that doesn't even site the source of their information. How do you sue someone for something that hasn't been proven to exist? When will people learn you can't believe everything you read on the internet? And you certainly can't believe anything reported in the news without first doing research to find out if it's true.
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