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Old 06-12-2018, 07:05 PM
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^^^ I have to agree again, especially since I still have a Corvette!

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This is completely false in modern cars. I am a chemical engineer. I used to work in a refinery and I have blended fuels. You are simply wasting money. It is your money though. Do what you feel is best.
So help me understand then, what is the purpose of even making higher octane fuel. For older "luxury" cars?
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Old 06-13-2018, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by M0J0
Yes, the regions mostly vary due to the RVP requirements in hotter climates. This is also why summer blends is more expensive than winter blends. People that don't care about paying higher prices for fuel I guess do not care at all about fuel economy then.
Is the myth actually true that higher octane fuel will yield better mpg?
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Old 06-13-2018, 05:50 AM
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Any automotive engineers or designers weigh in? The people that actually make and test engines and cars? To the extreme, I'm sure there's a reason that Formula 1 racers don't use 87 octane fuel. If it was a good thing to burn the cheapest gas available, I'm sure Audi would be all over that in billboards worldwide, in big red letters. Or is there a global conspiracy by high end car manufacturers to support the petroleum industry? Other than their obvious interest in having consumers continue buying cars with gasoline engines in the short term.

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Old 06-13-2018, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jetsfan101
Is the myth actually true that higher octane fuel will yield better mpg?
That would be the biggest myth along with that it is cleaner burning.
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jetsfan101
So help me understand then, what is the purpose of even making higher octane fuel. For older "luxury" cars?
It has nothing to do with luxury cars. It has to do with the compression ratio. There is plenty of information on this sort of thing. I posted a few links. If you are not racing your car you don't need high octane fuel.
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The semantic key in the conversation is related to whether the manufacturer recommends premium fuel or requires it. Audi's service manual for the (new) Q7 states it recommends it. With lower octane fuel, slight loss of power (maybe), poorer performance at high speed or towing (maybe). Long term effects on engine wear (maybe). You pays yer money and you takes yer choice.
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Originally Posted by Doc H
The semantic key in the conversation is related to whether the manufacturer recommends premium fuel or requires it. Audi's service manual for the (new) Q7 states it recommends it. With lower octane fuel, slight loss of power (maybe), poorer performance at high speed or towing (maybe). Long term effects on engine wear (maybe). You pays yer money and you takes yer choice.
It would have to "recommend" and not "required" - You could be in this scenario where you are middle of nowhere and running low on fuel, and the only station you can find has regular (believe me i've seen this few times) what option do you have? I hope that my $65K ride can accept regular as the interim until I can find Premium.
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Originally Posted by Rals
It would have to "recommend" and not "required" - You could be in this scenario where you are middle of nowhere and running low on fuel, and the only station you can find has regular (believe me i've seen this few times) what option do you have? I hope that my $65K ride can accept regular as the interim until I can find Premium.
The "recommended" is important because you won't damage your engine or void your warranty by using other than the listed octane rating. A high performance engine with a "required" high octane rating, not so much....
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Yep, the engine mfr recommends 91 AKI gasoline or better.

Yes, some manufacturers require a premium grade of fuel.

Fuel quality is variable around the globe - - not all have access to the quality of fuels we have in the USA/Can, etc. The cars have to be able to run on lesser grades of fuel. These cars will be at their best when using the recommended fuel. However, many are not tuned into their cars and will never realize a difference.
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