Totaly agree on waiting for any year 1 bugs in the BMW. I am in no hurry to replace my Q7.

As far as the new x5 being dated, perhaps it’s different in person because everything in that cabin felt like you are in a vehicle of that cost. I think things really come into perspective when you are at a show as big as the LA Auto show and within minutes of each other you can compare across every competitor. The particular Q8 at the show felt so dull inside compared to where the industry is clearly going. I am sure with a different color interior it could be better (I know from first hand experience with my Q7 it can make a big difference.) Really, this is more about the $$ though. Nothing at all wrong with the Q8 in my eyes at a correct price, but to call it a flagship and make it a premium cost over comparable equipped Q7 and not do anything to set it’s interior apart other then the MMI set up is a disappointment. Audi could have easily stepped up and made things more interesting through materials design choices without spending any additional mfg costs.