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Old 01-03-2004, 11:41 AM
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Hi I am thinking of buying Ur in the UK the car is modified from a 10 to 20valve will the car be worth more or less than a standard car? below is the spec"""1985 registered C plate. Tornado red fully repainted with windows out and then fully lined up. Black leather , door cards and dash. Fully converted in 1995 by Quattro sport at Hayward's Heath well known in the Audi conversion field. Full 20v from a write off engine, gearbox electronics. diff, interior dash etc. Car got replacemant head at that time. Upgraded lights to full relay board, front brakes twin pots , Kevlar pads, black diamond discs drilled and grooved, goodridge lines, new font seals 1999. Koni dampers and standard springs 1997 all suspension rebuilt bushes, track arms. Ceramic lagging to turbo, JR filter NOT chipped. 3" straight through pipe with 2x3"tail pipes. Composite bootlid. Wheels refinished at repaint with 215x50x15 tyres and spacesaver.
Sunroof, immobiliser, Clifford eagle 2 alarm and imm. tracker, fuel cut off, Radio/tape Blupunkt? personal steering wheel. 79000miles

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Default 20v conversions are always expensive, due to the time involved in the swap...

...and the level of "modification" done to the motor. Now a pristine example of an unmolested UrQ, with very low miles, would be worth about the same as a well done 20v conversion. So my opinion is this...If the car is running well, looks good, and is reasonably priced...Buy it. It'll most likely give less trouble than an original car, plus you've got all that extra power to play with.
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Default So how much is this one worth

its in very good condition
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Default Sounds like a very good example.

It won't bring as much as a true RR car, but it will be worth more than a comparable WR 10V car. This one sounds like it was converted by Kim Collins, and his work is well thought of. Considering that the complete drivetrain was fitted, it sounds like the conversion was quite comprehensive. My advice would be to have an expert, perhaps Keith at Dialynx or perhaps Phil Payne, have a look at it. It would also be wise to ask Kim Collins about the car.

A car like that in the US would likely go for $10-$20k depending upon condition, the quality of the conversion and how much a buyer can be convinced to spend. I don't know the market in the UK, but I would assume that the values would be comparable.
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Yeah. I was thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of $23,000US.
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Default That sounds high to me. I saw a low mileage RR in Germany go for less.

I would like to see ANY ur q in the US actually sell for more than $15k. I have heard of people trying to get as much as $30k, but I have never seen one actually sell over $15k. That seems to be the ceiling.

If you look on mobile.de right now, there is an '88 ur quattro with a 20V conversion going for 14500 Euro. Hmmm, looks like they have a hard time breaking 15k elsewhere in the world as well.
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Well, again, it depends on how much has been "done" to it.
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Is it RHD? If so, will you be driving it in a RHD country?
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Default It's not the "what" as more as the "how". Meaning when you open the hood (bonnet)...

...does it look like Audi actually did the job or a couple of guys and a case of Guinness did it. It's all in the craftsmanship. Are all the hoses new or wrapped in duct tape. I would think that would make the difference. $25,000 US? Can't you buy a newer (88-91) URq 20vt cheaper?
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Exactly, and yes, you can get a real RR cheaper.


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