Reggie

I get 25-26 on the hwy - 18 around town

SilverCanuckTT

Sure, if you track your car, then understeer may be the bane of your existence. BUt for us driving out in the real world, with rain and snow, understeer has its purpose. The ideal balance for a road car is neutral handing to the 9/10ths and then understeer. Cars like the B7 A4 understeer much earlier than that, the RS4 seems to do it at 10/10ths.

All you have to do is look at all the RWD Bimmers (or in fact any RWD car) in the ditch in the winter on our 400 series highways and you can see the big loop where the back end came out and the car swung around.

Nonetheless the new S4 is impressive. What would be cool is if it could detect snow like conditions and switch to understeer (or rather more understeer given the link above) in a pinch. Mighty not make for the most predictable handling, but could be cool !

S4intheOC

[QUOTE=VerrÜckt;23760730]I dunno, I kinda wrote this

https://www.audiworld.com/news/08/b8-s4-first-drive/

and this

https://www.audiworld.com/news/07/mt.../content.shtml



Oh Snap! LOL, no but seriously, those are some well written articles sir. Very thorough and exceptionally descriptive. With regards to how fast the MTM RS4 revs: "The little red dash needle loses the race to the RS4’s forged crankshaft every time." I chucked to myself about having to make the necessary mental adjustments when driving a vehicle experiencing such a phenomenon. Additionally, my preconceptions about the B8 S4 are lessened and now I'm actually eager to check out this magical "torque vectoring sport rear differential". Thanks for sharing.

S4intheOC

Ultimately I'd agree that given over all satisfaction of driving, the RS4 is going to be the superior choice. Not only will all your senses be pleased by the experience, but you'll have a car that truly has a unique and special place in automotive culture. I don't know if the B8 S4 will leave such a mark regardless of how much better the engine is than the outgoing V8.

Of course, in the end, much like Mr. Lieberman, I am a person who cannot drive a stock car and whether its the RS4 or B8 S4, the aftermarket will never support it to the extent that was witnessed on the B5 S4. With the exception of a 30K MTM supercharger, power gains are limited to basic bolt ons and hopefully a pulley/ECU combo for the new S4.

I say get the RS4 and if you ever have an insatiable need to drop 30K for the MTM setup, use it to build a GT turbo B5 S4 instead. At least that way you have 2 great cars for the price of one! And I'd be willing to bet that the GT car quickly becomes the favorite of the two. Boost is WAY more addictive than you think!

latebloomer

Everyone is saying the rs4 is faster in a straight line? I would say the s4 is faster.

Stock rs4 are trapping around 103-104 and so far I've read reports that the b8 s4 is trapping around 106-107.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothrea...int&id=4506120

http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

latebloomer

The b8 s4 is faster in a straight line than the rs4. With the new technology, the s4 probably handles better also, but we will wait to see the track times.

Trap speeds for stock rs4 is 103-104
Trap speeds for stock s4 is 106-107

http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothrea...int&id=4506120