silverRS4

I vaguely remember the dealer saying something like this when I picked up the car. There was some additive or something that aided in proper break in. I'm not even to 4k yet but I may go on a 2k trip so I asked the dealer for my 5k service early. So they did.

I drive the car 3 miles home and the first thing I notice is that they over-filled it. So I'm draining out the extra 1/2 quart and the oil is very,very dark - like it was before the "service". I'm thinking they just topped it off. Did they not change it because of this 5k thing? My bill said oil,filter,washer -no charge. Whatever the reason, I'll be changing my own oil/filter from now on - especially since they won't be "free".

daveak05

Get ready for every opinion out there

silverRS4

is my question. If so, that would help explain why my dealer did not change my oil when I asked them to.

daveak05

I haven't had a 5k service. After an oil change if the oil isn't golden, but instead dark brown, I'd be suspicious too.

They stated on the invoice that they changed it, so you'd be basically calling them liars if you challenged them on it. It's a tough call. But I would make sure somehow that the oil was changed. Otherwise you're looking at another 10k miles, unless you take matters into your own hands and do it yourself.

sparkhill

My Service Advisor suggested changing at 1000-1500 miles

daveak05

some SA's will say, change it out quick to get metals shavings from break-in out of the oil...which is bunk because those are easily trapped by the filter.

Other SA's will say you need to leave it in the whole 5k for break-in because it's a special oil, or it has an additive, etc...this is also bunk.

There is so much bogus info being peddled out there it's shameful, especially considering the source.

You address that question to actual Audi tech personnel(not SA's, not dealer mechanics) and they will provide a very common sense answer(i.e. it is designed to go the entire first 5k, however there is no harm in changing it early...obviously).

This is one of the most common questions on buying a new car. The car forums are replete with this exact question. I always laugh at how some insist their method is the only way, gospel.

sparkhill

I think you said it perfectly, "it is designed to go the entire first 5k, however there is no harm in changing it early."

We could probably add:

Using any Audi-approved oil is fine; the differences are probably of minimal significance over the typical engine lifespan.

Break-in probably doesn't matter much either but aggressive within guidelines is as good as anything else.

and the list goes on...

daveak05

Well, there are enough 502 approved oils so that no one should ever have a problem using a good oil.

Break-in, another hot topic(LOL), is a matter of varying the RPM's to include occasional brief runs to the limit allowed. Whether that qualifies as aggressive, I don't know. But there's no reason to baby it, especially this car.

I still change out oil first time on a new car < 2000 miles, but that's just me...just an old habit. There's no merit to it and I never try to tell others to do so.

silverRS4

<center><img src="http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm303/silverRS4/P8022662.jpg"></center><p>This was the same day and just a few miles after my supposed oil change. The Castrol is the sample on the right obviously. I'm pretty sure they didn't change it.

daveak05

I have to agree with you, doesn't look like they changed it. How nice...another example of Audi dealer shenanigans...and on a $70k RS car.

This is why dealers will NEVER command my trust, I don't care who they are. But especially Audi...shakes head.