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Old 11-10-2008, 12:20 PM
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what do you guys make of this<ul><li><a href="http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;file=viewtopic&amp;t=7 3889&amp;sid=7daf924432873bea9b6b121be36cc4c2">htt p://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&amp;file=viewtopic&amp;t=7 3889&amp;sid=7daf924432873bea9b6b121be36cc4c
Old 11-10-2008, 12:26 PM
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Default I read the thread, but don't see any data or anything there.

looks like he polished the intake, enlarged, but what is the result?
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Default I don't believe it. Here's why.

The gains appear to be fairly consistent across the entire rev range looking at the torque curve.

If the manifold was a flow restriction, you'd see very little gain on the low end increasing to more gain on the top end as airflow increases and the manifold became a bottleneck.

The fact that the before and after shows a near constant delta between 2500 RPM and 8000 RPM leads me to believe there is some other effect at play...different intake temps, different timing, different A/F ratio, etc etc etc.
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You need to log in to see the attachments. Something like a 30+ hp gain.
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Do you not believe the plots, or just the reason for the change?
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I don't believe the intake manifold is the reason for the RS4's before/after.
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Default pdf says it's corrected hp and torque. He said no change to ECU/AFR.

Porting the manifold is an old hotrod trick and 7% is not outside the realm of possibility for an engine that's all about volumetric efficiency.
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7% IS alot of gain on an engine like the RS4s'. I might believe 7% if the ENTIRE motor were massaged
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Default Check out this info......

Intake manifold design is apparently already optimized. It seems reasonable that in designing an engine like the RS4, such a fairly simple measure wouldn't be overlooked.<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/a5/msgs/14363.phtml">RS4 engine design</a></li></ul>
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Default You're not seeing things here.

Correction has nothing to do with how heatsoaked the engine is. You can do multiple pulls on an RS4 and I can almost guarantee that each subsequent pull will give you less power than the last. It's very reasonable to think that a 20 hp swing is possible with no changes done to the car, ECU, or conditions.

The RS4 is a long ways from an old hotrod. Hundreds of hours of computer work doesn't leave horsepower on the table that can be freed up by some bloke with a 6-pack and a dremel tool.

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