Rough cold idle
#1
AudiWorld Junior Member
Thread Starter
Rough cold idle
Hey Everyone,
I picked up my new 2018 Daytona Gray Presteige Package S4 in May and I love it.
The only issue I had was that I received it with a parking sensor that fell in due to it not being clipped properly. Fixed in 15 minutes at the dealer.
I have also noticed that the car idles rough at idle.
It is especially noticeable with the AC on and before the engine gets to operating temp.
It doesn’t really bother me however as my previous WRX ran similarly.
My question is if anyone else noticed the same?
Should I take it in for service?
#2
AudiWorld Member
You might need to describe what "rough" means in your terms, especially when comparing it to a WRX boxer engine. That's a huge difference, and off-hand, I'd say - your V-6 should never idle like a Flat 4.
I have noticed that sometimes I'd experience a bit of a "rough idle" in the 2.0t audi engines at start up, that I would describe as an imbalance in the cadence of the engines rythm, and always thought it was the motor mounts being "calibrated" as the engine warmed. But that's just a loose interpretation.....and not really applicable to our motor in relative terms.
Can you describe the sensation??
And as always - if you suspect something isn't correct with the car, you are fully under warranty - but they'll have to keep the car overnight to replicate the issue.
Where did you buy your s4?? Which dealership??
gr
I have noticed that sometimes I'd experience a bit of a "rough idle" in the 2.0t audi engines at start up, that I would describe as an imbalance in the cadence of the engines rythm, and always thought it was the motor mounts being "calibrated" as the engine warmed. But that's just a loose interpretation.....and not really applicable to our motor in relative terms.
Can you describe the sensation??
And as always - if you suspect something isn't correct with the car, you are fully under warranty - but they'll have to keep the car overnight to replicate the issue.
Where did you buy your s4?? Which dealership??
gr
Last edited by ghostrider990; 07-18-2018 at 05:13 AM.
#3
AudiWorld Senior Member
All new S4s have a little bit of a shaky idle when cold. It goes mostly away once the engine breaks in. It will never go away completely because a V6 is inherently a dynamically imbalanced design with an odd number of cylinders and counteracting the internal forces with balancing shafts is a challenging physics problem which you can read more about that here. However, once this S4 breaks in the shuddering and shakiness felt at idle subsides quite a bit, or at least so we've found.
This is good advice. It's impossible for us to feel what you're feeling but there is a good chance your dealer can sit in your car vs. any other S4 or S5 on their lot and tell you if what you're feeling is normal or not. But unless you tow it there, GR is right-- they'll need to let it cool off to a cold start and this means keeping it overnight. Not a big deal as you can probably drive an A4 loaner home and remind yourself why you upgraded to an S
This is good advice. It's impossible for us to feel what you're feeling but there is a good chance your dealer can sit in your car vs. any other S4 or S5 on their lot and tell you if what you're feeling is normal or not. But unless you tow it there, GR is right-- they'll need to let it cool off to a cold start and this means keeping it overnight. Not a big deal as you can probably drive an A4 loaner home and remind yourself why you upgraded to an S
#4
AudiWorld Member
I had an 18 2.0t Quattro loaner (P+), and I was reminded how GOOD a car it is!!
With an APR tune and some other tweaks, it would be a VERY competent - compelling daily driver.
I really wish the S4 had an S-Tronic transmission.....sooooooooo smooth. ZERO engine braking though.....and that's a bit odd.
With an APR tune and some other tweaks, it would be a VERY competent - compelling daily driver.
I really wish the S4 had an S-Tronic transmission.....sooooooooo smooth. ZERO engine braking though.....and that's a bit odd.
#5
AudiWorld Senior Member
Yeah, I guess GR is right. Even the most basic stripper model quattro A4 with zero nav or other tech is still an amazingly competent car, zippy as hell and with grip for days, but it just lacks the S4's soul. The exhaust, seats, and sport diff are what upsold me. I rarely use all the S4's power but I throw myself into its side bolsters and grin over the exhaust growl on the daily.
#6
AudiWorld Member
I was EXTREMELY happy to get back in my S4 after having the A4 for the weekend, but I still don't love the Tiptronic vs. the S-Tronic.
It's completely unrefined and harsh in comparison - especially on the downshifts.
Now back to the rough idle: Keep Us Posted, and if you can post a vid, or add a more thorough description of the malady, please do.
gr
It's completely unrefined and harsh in comparison - especially on the downshifts.
Now back to the rough idle: Keep Us Posted, and if you can post a vid, or add a more thorough description of the malady, please do.
gr
#7
AudiWorld Member
Its funny you posted this, I actually just noticed yesterday a pretty rough idle in mine. I got the car back in Sept of 2017, and occasionally have noticed a slightly rough idle but it wasn't too bothersome. but yesterday i was in my car (just parked in my driveway) and heard the passenger side seat belt hitting the side of the seat. I also could feel the car vibrating slightly too but when i looked over, the passenger seat was really shaking a lot visibly. like i mean shaking like if i was driving over really rough roads or something. that got me a little shook (pun intended). but i dont think the car should idle that rough. just for information my car is currently straight piped from the cat back (no mufflers or resonators) dont think that should really cause that but who knows. my car does currently have just under 10k miles so its definitely broken in by now
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#8
AudiWorld Junior Member
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Thanks for all the replies.
The shake is more like a random tremor.
Not a consistent shake.
It is noticeable after the RPM drops after a cold start but the temp bars have not reached the warm state.
If I have it on sport I never notice it due to the slightly higher RPM’s I believe.
It never bothered me until a friend pointed it out lol.
Said to myself “it’s that bad? I though I was being fussy”.
I personally don’t feel like anything is really wrong as the car runs perfectly wether I tap the gas from a parking spot or full on giving it the beans.
Just trying to get peoples take on it.
The shake is more like a random tremor.
Not a consistent shake.
It is noticeable after the RPM drops after a cold start but the temp bars have not reached the warm state.
If I have it on sport I never notice it due to the slightly higher RPM’s I believe.
It never bothered me until a friend pointed it out lol.
Said to myself “it’s that bad? I though I was being fussy”.
I personally don’t feel like anything is really wrong as the car runs perfectly wether I tap the gas from a parking spot or full on giving it the beans.
Just trying to get peoples take on it.
#9
AudiWorld Member
Exactly the same as mine. Only during cold start the first minute.
The engine behaves like my LT1 V8 engine in my 16 Camaro.
No issue at all, but I'm just surprised that Audi's DOHC V6 is just as "rough" as an OHV V8. lol
The engine behaves like my LT1 V8 engine in my 16 Camaro.
No issue at all, but I'm just surprised that Audi's DOHC V6 is just as "rough" as an OHV V8. lol
#10
AudiWorld Senior Member
As to rough idle, this car is also somewhat smoother than the B8 and totally acceptable given its character. If you want smoother, try a V8...