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Anyone come accross this situation: both a rich and a lean fault stored at the same time. MIL on,

Old 03-10-2006, 09:26 AM
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Default Anyone come accross this situation: both a rich and a lean fault stored at the same time. MIL on,

FT: -8 and +24. All obvious components checked/replaced. After clearing faults, all readiness codes set easily. Drive for 50 miles or so, and the faults return. I'm at a loss. Thanks for your help.
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injector leak or bad MAF
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Default Leaking as in leaking fuel into the cylinder, or leaking air into the intake mani?

MAF has been replaced...twice actually.
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i have extras if anyone needs one.
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Default Really? I would think that there would be a fault for timing as well.

Can you elaborate at all as to how the tensioner caused the rich/lean condition? TIA
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Default i would ask him b/c I would be merely speculating.

which might hurt instead of help.
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FPR pressure reference hose still connected and not leaking?
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All vacuum hoses are good.
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Is that -8 fuel trim for one bank and +24 for the other? Did you get your o2 connectors backwards?
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Default I had similar experience... I don't think it's the same thing, but just in case.

After 20 hours of serious work, assembling and disassembling the heads 4 times, we found out the problem to be a partially defective cam chain tensioner.

The car was fast... motor sound was a little bit more agressive (deeper note) than normal at WOT but nothing to scare me. Monitoring the car with VAGCOM, I could see the fuel trim going in opposite directions in real time (rich and lean code at the same time depending on channels) until it would reached 20% where I would get an automatic CEL (a flashing CEL that is for 10 seconds, ... and normal CEL afterwards).

Q: Are both banks showing the same amount of fuel trim correction?

Q: What codes to you get in VAGCOM, if any?

Q: Have you changed your timing belt recently?

Best of luck finding your problem...
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