Blinder users: question. NEone got into trouble where jammers illegal? more...
07-22-2007, 08:38 PM
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Blinder users: question. NEone got into trouble where jammers illegal? more...
This device has no stealth mode. Ergo, cop may deduce you are using illegal device (at least in some states) and come after you. Any words of wisdom from those with experience??
07-22-2007, 08:45 PM
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Unless the cops have some sort of detector themselves (to let them know they are being jammed)
they have no real way of knowing they are being jammed. They simply don't get a reading on the car immediately. Which actually isn't all that big of a deal since some cars (esepcially if they don't have a front plate) are harder to get a reading. So if your jammer goes off, slow down and turn off the jammer so they can get a reading. They'll probably think they just had too much coffee that morning and their aim sucks ;-)
07-22-2007, 08:49 PM
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If they get a good bead on you but no reading, they'll have suspicions., especially .....
if you're the only vehicle around. Besides, it's not always so easy to slow down suddenly, find some remote switch to turn off, and mind all P's & Q's at the same time when "pressure is on". Just curious whether this has been an issue for anyone with this device. My Lidatek is broken with no replacement available anytime soon, and jammers are illegal in Utah. I am considering the Blinder.
07-22-2007, 08:56 PM
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Eh, not really. I did some testing with Fixedwing and some cars are just harder to get a reading on
anyway. I don't think jammers are common enough for cops to even know or think they are being jammed. As long as you turn it off and they get a reading (and they didn't just see you slam on your brakes at 120 mph) you should be fine.
07-23-2007, 03:01 AM
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The FDA regulates LIDAR devices and they are illegal in only 3 states
Google "Laser Jammer FDA"
You will get results like <a href="http://www.radarbusters.com/detectorsfaqsarticle.cfm">this</a>.
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"The good news is that you can easily jam their guns with a laser jammer such as the BLINDER, the Escort Shifter, or Beltronics LaserPro. Laser jamming devices are also not regulated by the FFC but by the FDA and there is no federal laws regarding the jamming of police laser guns.
However three states have enacted laws banning the ownership, sale and use of laser jammers they are Minnesota (Minnesota Statutes 2002, 169.14) California (Sec. 1, Ch 493.28150, effective January 1999) and Utah (C. 41-6-52.7, 1998)"
You will get results like <a href="http://www.radarbusters.com/detectorsfaqsarticle.cfm">this</a>.
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"The good news is that you can easily jam their guns with a laser jammer such as the BLINDER, the Escort Shifter, or Beltronics LaserPro. Laser jamming devices are also not regulated by the FFC but by the FDA and there is no federal laws regarding the jamming of police laser guns.
However three states have enacted laws banning the ownership, sale and use of laser jammers they are Minnesota (Minnesota Statutes 2002, 169.14) California (Sec. 1, Ch 493.28150, effective January 1999) and Utah (C. 41-6-52.7, 1998)"
07-23-2007, 05:25 AM
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Naw not really, not a whole lot of interest after the NY/CT?NJ board guys had a group buy on them
Plus both Fixedwing and I got quite busy this past year. Drop him a line and see what he can do though :-)
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07-23-2007, 05:49 AM
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Hahahaha .. I was about to suggest the same thing. :-p
On detection of jammers, there are some units in Europe that are able to detect a LASER jammer. I've never heard of these units being used in North America but it is possible. It is also possible that the manufacturers here will or have built in this feature. It isn't hard at all to detect the pattern of a jammer.
Another point to remember is that a jammmer ticket is probably going to be a non-moving violation. That's preferable to a speeding ticket. I suspect the situation could quite different in Canada though.
Stephen
Another point to remember is that a jammmer ticket is probably going to be a non-moving violation. That's preferable to a speeding ticket. I suspect the situation could quite different in Canada though.
Stephen
07-23-2007, 07:06 AM
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I have been in the only car on the road before going 15-20 over the limit (I-5) in WA...
and have been hit by a state trooper. Both my Blinder and V1 went nuts and I slowed quickly to about 5 over and switched off the jammer.
He/She just sat there and did not come after me so I have to assume that the Jammer was effective. I have had a few other scares, but those times I wasn't the only car on the road so I cannot guarantee that it saved me.
I do agree that you have to keep you wits about you, but if you mount the on/off in the right spot it is pretty easy to get too. I figure if they do come after me for slowing down so quickly I can just point to the detector.
He/She just sat there and did not come after me so I have to assume that the Jammer was effective. I have had a few other scares, but those times I wasn't the only car on the road so I cannot guarantee that it saved me.
I do agree that you have to keep you wits about you, but if you mount the on/off in the right spot it is pretty easy to get too. I figure if they do come after me for slowing down so quickly I can just point to the detector.
07-23-2007, 08:23 AM
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So far the penalties for using it are far less severe than the potential penalties for not using it.
I'll use VA as an example with respect to their prohibition of radar detectors. The fine for using a RD is anywhere between $25-100. Driving 20+mph over the limit and getting caught usually earns you a wreckless driving charge, some nights in jails, a hefty fine and court visit, and recently, additional surcharges that are imposed over a 3 year period, even if you're from outside the state. I don't know that the same pattern is true for the other states banning laser jammers, but I imagine it is. Canada is another matter entirely. They will reach under your hood (and in the car) and rip out everything that you're not supposed to have, and they may not be particularly kind about the manner in which they do so. I imagine their fines are a bit steeper as well, so if you get caught up there, expect it to cost you dearly.
Oh, and to clarify a few more points that were brought up in this thread. About 5-7 states currently have legislation in place that bans laser jammers.
Some of the more recent guns will display something different if they are being jammed. Most of the older units will just display "---" on the readout if it can't acquire a speed reading.
Oh, and to clarify a few more points that were brought up in this thread. About 5-7 states currently have legislation in place that bans laser jammers.
Some of the more recent guns will display something different if they are being jammed. Most of the older units will just display "---" on the readout if it can't acquire a speed reading.