Ah10@WMS

This one is today at 9pm
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This one is from yesterday at 6pm
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I did pull more fuel, seems like it is a little bit better but the amount of fuel I pulled scare the crab out of me!

PSmalls::DoggieStyle

Now just have the airbox setup inspected by simpply again, maybe he can open it up more for your airflow #s to go down a bit.

Ah10@WMS

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-M3=Lunch-

much better, did u use the settings i told you?

JasonS4+Festicle

#'s to go down, what exactly do you mean?

I'm asking because when I went from my open element cone filter set-up with the 85mm MAF (Piggie's MAF housing) running g/s ~230's, to a stock airbox set-up mated to the same 85mm MAF housing with Dar-intake, my g/s #'s went to 240's and my car is running really rich.

Basically, my A:F went from 12's to 10's (on my wideband). I pulled some more fuel without much major change. I popped the old set-up back in to be sure it wasn't my wideband reading wrong, and, sure enough, the A:F ratio went back to 12's (where I want it).

Is this because the car thinks it's getting more air (even though it's really not) and therefore dumping more fuel in?

I'm thinking I need a much larger Dar-intake hole?

I'm nervous about pulling more than 20% primary fuel with green tops.

What do you think? Pull more and more fuel until I get it where I want, or open up the airbox bottom a bit more or both?

I'm interested in your opinion here.

PSmalls::DoggieStyle

You need a straight through path there, or as close to it as possible, to get proper airflow readings. Otherwise, if you don't open it enough, you get inflated airflow readings which results in excessive fuel dumpage. As you open up the airbox opening mating up to the MAF, your airflow readings will drop. However, most people *do* pull 20+% fuel with greenies@4bar. It's okay if you are pulling 20+% and getting closer to mid .8s (like Mike Moore, who really opened his airbox up like a funnel tapering into the MAF), but I don't like it when people are pulling 20+% and still only seeing high .8s (like Ah10 here, who has 24% pulled). It's good he lives in CA where there is 91 octane, actually a good place to run on the rich side of things at WOT. Also, note that Ah10 says he runs a 85mm MAF, which means he shouldn't have to pull as much as you to get the same results because the MAF is better scaled to his injector/fpr setup (slightly, 2mm is 2mm though).

As for you, I'd try a little bit of both unless you can already pull enough fuel to get mid .8 02 voltages. If you are pulling upwards of 20 just to get out of the 10s, might want to take a look at the airflow path into your MAF.

Feel free to e-mail me, but the PEB email is no longer. I'm not sure if you have my other e-mail addy?

PSmalls::DoggieStyle

LOL!

Ah10@WMS

on the decreasing load as you told me take 10% away, now when i shift it doesnt jurk, but on the primary I had to pull 24% to get 02 reading down to 0.865-0.885 on b2 pre, and 0.865-0.895 on the other side!

Sir are you free tomorrow?

JasonS4+Festicle

cool - makes sense, thanks! I'll e-mail you when I get more confused. Need to do some testing.