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Old 06-30-2005, 09:16 AM
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Default I already AWE stage 3, with TCD cause damage?

Does anyone know the exact reasons that Throttle Cut happens? My guess would be EGT and Timing(due to boost). GIAC deffinetly know what they are doing but when I run my MBC in paralell I get Throttle cut around 5750 after the engine is warmed up.

What options do stage 3 owners have to get more power out of what they have when 450(crank) isnt enough?

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Default Throttle cut most often happens because of boost deviations.

You could have a boost leak and/or your MBC setting could be causing a deviation between actual and requested. If you've already checked for leaks and concluded you have none, log block 115 (actual boost vs requested boost) and block 003 (MAF, throttle position, timing) *seperately* while while experiencing this "throttle cut" you speak of.

"What options do stage 3 owners have to get more power out of what they have when 450(crank) isnt enough?"

Well, you could always try optimizing your setup and sneaking a few extra ponies out of your setup. If that's not enough, might want to look into bigger turbos.
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i have never used TCD on stg3 software .but i have on one car but it was on XR all the time
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Why are you using a MBC on AWE Stg3? The code does the boost pretty well afaicr.
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U sure its a specific RPM and not throttle input? (foot to floor speed)
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its not always 5750 thats why I was asking...its just AROUND there
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to see if I can boost it any higher....without stressing the turbos and running lean that is
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I was havin the sameish prob w/out stg3 and it was just a boost leak.
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Default Get a log of 115. Sounds like a boost deviation because your MBC setting is not following your

requestd boost curve. AFAIK, the more recent GIAC K04 software has a progressively increasing boost curve, boost rising as RPMs rise. Because of this, it's very hard to run a MBC without cutting throttle. In addition, if you have a TCD set at 1bar, you are seeing a HUGE negative deviation...especially as RPMs rise.

Fact of the matter is we need to look at logs in order to really help you.
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Default I did when i had AWE fueling. Basically, I liked the way a MBC ramped up the boost.....

But, it ramped up faster than the N75 and the requested vs. actual deviated enough that I got throttle cut. In this case, I used a TCD.

I was running just about normal AWE stage III boost levels, with AWE stage III software AND a TCD and MBC. Worked fine.


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