My S4 lost its MOJO "NO BOOST" HELP!
07-08-2005, 01:44 PM
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My S4 lost its MOJO "NO BOOST" HELP!
I jsut starting having problems boosting. Not sure what it is but here are the symptoms:
When I throttle the gas pedal all the way down the RPM jump to 4000 but do not pass 4000rpms. It starts to jerk back and forth like a hair ball got stuck in it. The acr does not accelerate it kinda stalls and jerks forward. This only happens when I try to accelerate for boost. It drives fine if I do not try to boost too quickly. I ran VAG-COM for Block 115, Block 031 and Block 003. Not sure how to post the graphs or the excel spread sheet I have.
Any ideas, comments, or jokes much welcome.
Thx
When I throttle the gas pedal all the way down the RPM jump to 4000 but do not pass 4000rpms. It starts to jerk back and forth like a hair ball got stuck in it. The acr does not accelerate it kinda stalls and jerks forward. This only happens when I try to accelerate for boost. It drives fine if I do not try to boost too quickly. I ran VAG-COM for Block 115, Block 031 and Block 003. Not sure how to post the graphs or the excel spread sheet I have.
Any ideas, comments, or jokes much welcome.
Thx
07-08-2005, 02:04 PM
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Well Zeddy..Try Running VAG for FAULT CODES First..Then Look @ Blocks..See If Your Car Has Thrown A
code..before u start logging blocks. I always check for fault codes before logging. All chipped S4s need to check for codes periodically. They (codes) don't always throw a CEL.
07-09-2005, 08:57 AM
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Posting Excel Graphs - plot up data on graph, hit Print Screen key
open up MS Paint or Photo Editor, Edit -> Paste, then save. Upload to a host and then post picture.
Or you can just post the raw data.
Or you can just post the raw data.
07-10-2005, 09:15 AM
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Thanks for the 411 her is the data
time RPM Spec'd Boost(lb/in²) Actual Boost(lb/in²)
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PS I have more data if needed but I think this should be sufficient.
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PS I have more data if needed but I think this should be sufficient.
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07-12-2005, 01:14 PM
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Update
After $300 (Oil change, fuel injector and throttle cleaned and some other stuff done at the dealership), I foud the problem. My APR 93Oct program is screwed up. When I run in stock mode it works well but every time I switch to 93Oct (did this 5 times) same problems boosting.
Well a call to APR should help.
Well a call to APR should help.
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APR said it might be a MAF sensor going bad
Although quite common on S4, MAF might be going bad. I describe the symptoms to the APR tech and he gave me a couple of things to try out. The APR 93 octane code is a bit more sensitive to the MAF so it will detect problems and immediately throw the car in limp mode. As soon as I try out the tips I'll update what is going on. Going tomorrow morning to p/u the girlfriends new 2005 Allroad.