S4 / RS4 (B5 Platform) Discussion Discussion forum for the B5 Audi S4 & RS4 produced from 1998-2002

S4 Oil Temp. Is 320 too high?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-13-2001, 05:20 PM
  #1  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
Phil Usher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default S4 Oil Temp. Is 320 too high?

Hi Gang,

I was at a track event last weekend in California and it was hot, (over 100 in the shade). While on the track I saw my oil temp rise such that I became nervous.

I always thought that an oil temp over 300 spelt potential disaster so when I saw this temp I quit running the car hard so it could cool down. IOW I went from being a fast mover to a moving obstacle!

However, the oil temp red zone on the S4 doesn't become red until 350 which begs the question: What is a safe high temp for the S4?

Any thoughts?

Cheers ... Phil Usher
Old 06-13-2001, 05:20 PM
  #2  
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
LFS4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 1,695
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ive never been over 270
Old 06-13-2001, 05:58 PM
  #3  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
Phil Usher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks; peviously 270 was the high mark here also. Still, the 350 is the red mark, is it too high?
Old 06-13-2001, 05:58 PM
  #4  
Member
 
Nogaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 12,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Hi phil long time no see!! While on this topic how about oil pressure?

I sometime see my oil pressure drop to less then 10psi on the track. The oil I'm using is Mobil 1 5w30.
Old 06-13-2001, 06:00 PM
  #5  
LCP
AudiWorld Expert
 
LCP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 26,551
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Wow. 300 was the hottest I'd heard of before. What kind of oil? I assume you were chipped???
Old 06-13-2001, 06:03 PM
  #6  
JDS
New Member
 
JDS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: S4 Oil Temp. Is 320 too high?

I would hope you were running synthetic oil. If so 320' is do-able but not the best for your car. I would remove all the "plastic" pieces from the engine and run "water-wetter" in the cooling system. Reduce the amount of anti-freeze in the coolant as well. If you are running with a chip make sure your exhaust is as free flowing as possible. Down-pipes really help remove the heat away from the turbos which will also help lower the oil temp. I think we saw 325' on mine running in similiar conditions when I first got the car, but that was before we did all of the above. Still, in 100' heat on a track for any period of time with turbos "cooking" I would not be surprised to see 320' temps. I would say anything over 325' and I would pull in. That would give you a 25' cushion. I would also run 5w40 synthetic to help in those high temps. I no longer do track-days when the temps are over 100'.
Old 06-13-2001, 06:36 PM
  #7  
New Member
 
Russ Burns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 385
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

10psi? while idleing I hope. How did the date work out?
Old 06-13-2001, 06:37 PM
  #8  
Junior Member
 
Mark Dalen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 583
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default That could be deadly.

Is that at speed or at idle? If at idle, you are probably OK, but at any speed you have a problem. Oil pressure required to keep the main & rod bearings 'floating' on an oil film is a function of crank journal diameter and RPM. At moderate to high RPM's, anything under 30-40 psi will likely cause the bearings to run directly on the metal journal (without the oil film). This will result in bearing damage.
Old 06-13-2001, 07:05 PM
  #9  
Member
 
Nogaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 12,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default I would think the ECU would warn me of that....

I also think there could be something wrong with the hosing of the oil pressure gauges too. When I start the car, its at a woopping 40psi! And slowly dies down to 30psi when warmed.
Old 06-13-2001, 07:05 PM
  #10  
Member
 
Nogaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 12,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Very very good =)


Quick Reply: S4 Oil Temp. Is 320 too high?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:53 PM.