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So anyone got ideas on whats causing this CEL to keep coming back?

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Old 08-30-2006, 11:36 AM
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Default So anyone got ideas on whats causing this CEL to keep coming back?

Codes are:
17584 Bank1: O2 (Lambda) Correction Behind Catalyst: Control Limit Reached P1176-35-00
17585 Bank2: O2 (Lambda) Correction Behind Catalyst: Control Limit Reached P1177-35-00

Background is that I got 3 new O2 sensors put in at the beginning of July (front driver only one still original). Codes went away.
Did an open track day on July 4th. Temps were very warm (probably 100F ambient), oil got over 275F (quickly stopped driving hard and did cooldowns at that point, need an oil cooler) and coolant got past 1 tick right of center.
On July 5th, got a CEL with those codes. No other codes were found in the ECU.
Clear the codes and they come back after roughly 50 miles of driving.

Car mods are: suspension. Thats it. Was using regular 91 craptane pump gas. No chip, no piggies, nothing.

So what would cause this code after roughly 85 miles on the track? My two hunches are either high exhaust gas temps nuking the O2 sensors. Or the cats are going bad. Problem is, those two problems have their own codes they should throw (EGT sensors or Cat efficiency codes).

Any ideas? Seriously need some help here.
Old 08-30-2006, 11:42 AM
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Default Mine hasn't come back in the last 1000 miles, but it will if i take it to the track

my guess is that we cooked the o2 sensors initially, now they are intermittently fubar'd
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Try swapping rear 02s maybe? Those codes sometimes pop up when rear sensors are reversed.
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yup.
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Default ...and just to be clear, move the O2 sensor that is connected behind the back right cat and place

it in the one on the left and vice versa.
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Default I dunno. The O2 sensors were (well supposedly) brand new. Worked fine (no CEL) for 3 weeks.

1 day at the track and they then throw a CEL? And even though I clear the codes, it keeps coming back. Almost every time within 50 miles.
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Default The problem with that idea is wouldn't the EGT sensors throw something if the gasses were so hot as

to be able to nuke an O2 sensor?

I agree the idea sounds plausible, just still has its own issues.
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Default did you read my post below?

The O2's are fine. The two O2 sensors after the cats are just each in the wrong holes. When he says swap, he means put the right one in the left hole, and the left one in the right hole.
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Default Yes I read your post. Just seems odd that would be the cause given the situation.

But I'll see about trying it.
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Default In all honesty, you should just try it. If that doesn't work, then you have other problems that

occur. But that is what those codes usually mean.
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