what do yall think about YOKOHAMA AVS ES100's on stock wheels?
01-20-2006, 05:01 PM
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Re: what do yall think about YOKOHAMA AVS ES100's on stock wheels?
I have not owned ES100's, but I read a tire comparison somewhere a few months back and they seemed to be good tires for the price. They were below middle of the pack for high-performance tires, but they were significantly cheaper than the other tires it was trying to compete with. They are supposed to have good tread life and good wet/dry balance. I can't remember how it did in tire noise and ride, you should probably che Tire Rack reviews and see how it went.
I think the big thing about the ES100's were that there were not great in any particular thing, but they were well rounded in terms of capability. Beiing decent all-around is a good thing.
I went the expensive route and opted for Goodyear Eagle F1 DS3 (a.k.a. DSR3). I had Sumitomo HTZ-II's, which are great for the money, but are not high-performance tires. They lasted a long, long, long time, but got really noisy in the latter half of their life, and then rode like wood, handled like sponges. I thought the S4 just didn't handle well, too much roll (which is true to a degree). However, when I put the Goodyears on it was a whole new animal.
The tires broke-in in about 90 miles. I drove from SF to Vegas, and SF to Santa Monica and the tires were great on both trips. The difference in handling is night and day.
The S4 still has the inherent roll, but it's mild and I have confidence in the cars footing now.
The ride is much better and smoother, though there are some roads where the Sumitomo's were actually smoother. I would say 95% of the time the Goodyears are smoother.
These tires are very quiet. I'm glad to listen to my music without the tire whine in the background.
These tires stick like Velcro. I can most of my turns 10mph over whatever I could do with the HTZ-II. Actually, I'm still getting used to how well the car handles now. I think I will be happy with it for quite a while and I am not as compelled to purchase a coil-over kit now.
They are just as predictable in the wet as they are the dry... Wet handling rocks!!!
Cost is the big problem, $175 each tire, totals to $214 for each installed corner (that is expensive installation, but it was the same everywhere I went).
Of course, I only have about 2500 miles on them so I'm sure it'll be different in another 10,000 miles. Tire Rack reviews indicate the Goodyears wear very well, so I think I'll be happy 10k from now
Good luck.
I think the big thing about the ES100's were that there were not great in any particular thing, but they were well rounded in terms of capability. Beiing decent all-around is a good thing.
I went the expensive route and opted for Goodyear Eagle F1 DS3 (a.k.a. DSR3). I had Sumitomo HTZ-II's, which are great for the money, but are not high-performance tires. They lasted a long, long, long time, but got really noisy in the latter half of their life, and then rode like wood, handled like sponges. I thought the S4 just didn't handle well, too much roll (which is true to a degree). However, when I put the Goodyears on it was a whole new animal.
The tires broke-in in about 90 miles. I drove from SF to Vegas, and SF to Santa Monica and the tires were great on both trips. The difference in handling is night and day.
The S4 still has the inherent roll, but it's mild and I have confidence in the cars footing now.
The ride is much better and smoother, though there are some roads where the Sumitomo's were actually smoother. I would say 95% of the time the Goodyears are smoother.
These tires are very quiet. I'm glad to listen to my music without the tire whine in the background.
These tires stick like Velcro. I can most of my turns 10mph over whatever I could do with the HTZ-II. Actually, I'm still getting used to how well the car handles now. I think I will be happy with it for quite a while and I am not as compelled to purchase a coil-over kit now.
They are just as predictable in the wet as they are the dry... Wet handling rocks!!!
Cost is the big problem, $175 each tire, totals to $214 for each installed corner (that is expensive installation, but it was the same everywhere I went).
Of course, I only have about 2500 miles on them so I'm sure it'll be different in another 10,000 miles. Tire Rack reviews indicate the Goodyears wear very well, so I think I'll be happy 10k from now
Good luck.
01-20-2006, 05:22 PM
#6
they suck
i have them on as a temporary tire, and I can't wait to pick up some new tires this spring. Don't grip nearly as hard as my old bf goodrich kdw2's.
However, they are relatively inexpensive and have decent treadwear. Not that loud either.
However, they are relatively inexpensive and have decent treadwear. Not that loud either.
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