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Old 03-27-2004, 03:25 PM
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When I turn the key to on and do NOT start the car, the battery, EPC and CEL light come on and stay on. The airbag light comes and leaves. I cleared all code from DTC and no new codes come.
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Default ................? Are you experiencing any driveability problems? Or is it just the lights?

Looking for a problem? It really sounds like there's nothing wrong. What happens to the EPC and CEL lights when you start the engine? Everything runs, accelerates, drives, stops, & restarts ok, right?

Be careful you don't go into the central locking control unit & check DTC's there, you'll be asking all sorts of questions!
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Default I wish the car started. It does start, doesn't even crank

It was involved in a crash, here are all the faults I found

00856 - Radio Antenna 29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
18265 - Load Signal: Error Message from ECU
01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2)
01367 - Central Locking Pump Run Time Exceeded (Likely Leak)
35-00 - -
01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring
35-00 - -
01366 - Opened Due to Crash Signal
35-00 - -
01365 - Lock/Unlock Switch: Interior
29-00 - Short to Ground
00991 - Interior Lights
28-00 - Short to B+
00955 - Key 1
09-00 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed

Previous run:
VAG-COM Version: Release 303.1

Control Module Part Number: 8D0 907 551 B
Component and/or Version: 2.7l V6/5VT G 0003
Software Coding: 06651
Work Shop Code: WSC 06325
10 Faults Found:
17521 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor: B1 S1: Internal Resistance too High
P1113 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16805 - Warm Up Catalyst: Bank 1: Efficiency Below Threshold
P0421 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16487 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70): Signal too High
P0103 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17748 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28): Incor. Correlation
P1340 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16685 - Cylinder 1 Misfire Detected
P0301 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16687 - Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected
P0303 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16686 - Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected
P0302 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16725 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40): Implausible Signal
P0341 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30: Voltage too Low
P1602 - 35-00 - -
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Default Re: I wish the car started. It does start, doesn't even crank

Ok. Sorry then.

What kind of damage are we talking? Front end, engine damage? By the looks of it, the ECU is seeing conflicting data from the cam sensors & crank position sensor. I'd line up the crank & make sure the cam pulleys are lined up first. From there, look into the cam position sensor connections, clear dtc's, check output diagnostics, and go from there. Also check wiring, ground locations under the hood, & starter wiring.

Tough call, being in an accident. Again, sorry.
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Default It was in a accident, how do i line up

Thanks for all the help, question how do I line up the crank & make sure the cam pulleys are lined up first. If you can point me a page in the service manual, that would help out. Thanks again. This is a big learning experience. Also my ECU had the following:
17748 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28): Incor. Correlation
16725 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40): Implausible Signal
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Default This picture isn't the greatest, but.....

<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/54525/crankpulleylineup.jpg"></center><p>here ya go. When you have the crank pulley lined up, the cam gear pin plates should be horizontal. Good enough explanation?
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Default I see, one last thing

What is the best way to turn the crank pulley.

thanks again
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Default Crank pulley is a 24mm 12 point socket. You'll need to pull the front clip unless.....

you modify a socket by cutting it in 1/2. You'll need to do that to get it &amp; a rachet onto the crank bolt, and get it by the fan assemblies &amp; stuff. You'll also need to take off the upper timing belt covers enough to see the cam pin plates too though. Might be a lot of trouble, depends on your skill level, tools, &amp; experience.
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Default Went out and bought the tools

Two quick questions, I assume the crank shaft is on the drivers side, can I do this check without removing the radiador. And second, if I find they are not in line is it easy to fix or is it a dealer thing?
Thanks again for all the help
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