New Owner: Clarification on Lowering Options
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New Owner: Clarification on Lowering Options
Hi All,
I just recently traded in my 2013 BMW 550i M-Sport ("sport" suspension is a joke!) for a 2015 Audi S6 Exclusive and it's SO MUCH more car than the Beamer. However, as much as I love the air ride, I wish it would go lower. So I have been using the search feature and seeing stuff about lowering modules and VCDS. I'm just not clear on what does what and how much. Does VCDS, for a fraction of the cost, allow me to lower the ride height as much as the plug and play modules like Vogtland, LLTek and H&R at over $2K each? I have seen a few threads of folks saying VCDS should be your first mod, as well.
So to clarify for me, if I leave my car in "Dynamic" mode, is that the lowest stock settings will allow it to go and stays at that height until I change it? Now will a VCDS allow me to go lower than that? If so, how much lower? Now what about the PnP modules? I am guessing if they don't go even lower than VCDS, they at least allow you to adjust ride height on fly or at least in car whenever you want. Is that really what you're paying for?
I just recently traded in my 2013 BMW 550i M-Sport ("sport" suspension is a joke!) for a 2015 Audi S6 Exclusive and it's SO MUCH more car than the Beamer. However, as much as I love the air ride, I wish it would go lower. So I have been using the search feature and seeing stuff about lowering modules and VCDS. I'm just not clear on what does what and how much. Does VCDS, for a fraction of the cost, allow me to lower the ride height as much as the plug and play modules like Vogtland, LLTek and H&R at over $2K each? I have seen a few threads of folks saying VCDS should be your first mod, as well.
So to clarify for me, if I leave my car in "Dynamic" mode, is that the lowest stock settings will allow it to go and stays at that height until I change it? Now will a VCDS allow me to go lower than that? If so, how much lower? Now what about the PnP modules? I am guessing if they don't go even lower than VCDS, they at least allow you to adjust ride height on fly or at least in car whenever you want. Is that really what you're paying for?
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As far as I recall you can use VCDS to lower the stock air suspension 8 - 10 mm's, up to 17 mm's, I think once you go below 17mm's it really messes with the radars and camera detection systems. (Driver's assistance Package)
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That's great! Looks like I'm getting VCDS. Thanks for the info.
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1) VCDS/OBDEleven - up to 15-17mm via stock air suspension and allows for other coding changes and diagnostics. Worth noting people with facelift cars have noted easier use with OBD versus VCDS.
2) Air Modules - CETE and H&R. Plug’n’play and allows easy lowering via apps with big drops allowed (show mode for CETE). Costs the most over $1200 retail. Have seen a lot of used ones for sale though.
3) Lowering Links - more drop than #1 and cheaper than #2 but requires some physical work and not as easily modified if you don’t have easy access to jacks.
think that’s it...
2) Air Modules - CETE and H&R. Plug’n’play and allows easy lowering via apps with big drops allowed (show mode for CETE). Costs the most over $1200 retail. Have seen a lot of used ones for sale though.
3) Lowering Links - more drop than #1 and cheaper than #2 but requires some physical work and not as easily modified if you don’t have easy access to jacks.
think that’s it...
Last edited by snohman82; 05-03-2018 at 07:51 PM.
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I'd only go with VCDS, like most of us do. Car looks really good, and you retain full use of the suspension, meaning no issues, and really acceptable handling... and I traded a fully optioned 2016 Cayman GTS with sport suspension for this thing. How much you can drop it depends on what your factory numbers are. You can physically go up to 414.0 with VCDS, but I had issues. Also had issues with 412.0, so went with 410.0, and everything worked perfectly, so use that as your limit. You might be able to add more than 17, as I mentioned, but don't go over 410.0. Therefore just deduct 410 from your highest number, then add that to all 4 numbers. Hope this helps.
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I'd only go with VCDS, like most of us do. Car looks really good, and you retain full use of the suspension, meaning no issues, and really acceptable handling... and I traded a fully optioned 2016 Cayman GTS with sport suspension for this thing. How much you can drop it depends on what your factory numbers are. You can physically go up to 414.0 with VCDS, but I had issues. Also had issues with 412.0, so went with 410.0, and everything worked perfectly, so use that as your limit. You might be able to add more than 17, as I mentioned, but don't go over 410.0. Therefore just deduct 410 from your highest number, then add that to all 4 numbers. Hope this helps.
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1) VCDS/OBDEleven - up to 15-17mm via stock air suspension and allows for other coding changes and diagnostics. Worth noting people with facelift cars have noted easier use with OBD versus VCDS.
2) Air Modules - CETE and H&R. Plug’n’play and allows easy lowering via apps with big drops allowed (show mode for CETE). Costs the most over $1200 retail. Have seen a lot of used ones for sale though.
3) Lowering Links - more drop than #1 and cheaper than #2 but requires some physical work and not as easily modified if you don’t have easy access to jacks.
think that’s it...
2) Air Modules - CETE and H&R. Plug’n’play and allows easy lowering via apps with big drops allowed (show mode for CETE). Costs the most over $1200 retail. Have seen a lot of used ones for sale though.
3) Lowering Links - more drop than #1 and cheaper than #2 but requires some physical work and not as easily modified if you don’t have easy access to jacks.
think that’s it...
I'd only go with VCDS, like most of us do. Car looks really good, and you retain full use of the suspension, meaning no issues, and really acceptable handling... and I traded a fully optioned 2016 Cayman GTS with sport suspension for this thing. How much you can drop it depends on what your factory numbers are. You can physically go up to 414.0 with VCDS, but I had issues. Also had issues with 412.0, so went with 410.0, and everything worked perfectly, so use that as your limit. You might be able to add more than 17, as I mentioned, but don't go over 410.0. Therefore just deduct 410 from your highest number, then add that to all 4 numbers. Hope this helps.
One question I guess I'd have, is I assume one of the "risks" of lowering the suspension are of an obvious nature; as in your S6 is now lower to the ground, theres less clearance for certain obstacles and that is you are traveling at speed theres less of an ability for the suspension to absorb a huge pot hole, etc.? and subsequently you could end up with a damaged rim, suspension, etc?
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Here’s a shot of mine lowered 10mm - my front right tire was the lowest, with my rears slightly higher so i have some tweaking to do. Could safely do 2-3mm more as my front right was at 409.8 after the modification. Here’s a shot of mine (not the best angle) on dynamic after lowering. Good luck!
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One question I guess I'd have, is I assume one of the "risks" of lowering the suspension are of an obvious nature; as in your S6 is now lower to the ground, theres less clearance for certain obstacles and that is you are traveling at speed theres less of an ability for the suspension to absorb a huge pot hole, etc.? and subsequently you could end up with a damaged rim, suspension, etc?
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Here’s a shot of mine lowered 10mm - my front right tire was the lowest, with my rears slightly higher so i have some tweaking to do. Could safely do 2-3mm more as my front right was at 409.8 after the modification. Here’s a shot of mine (not the best angle) on dynamic after lowering. Good luck!