DTUK, worth it?
05-29-2018, 12:01 PM
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DTUK, worth it?
Hey guys,
So I know DTUK won't be detected by dealer if I deactivate it before sending the car in. I am more curious about:
1. The increase in power. Can you really feel the difference? Is the turbo/transmission lag be somewhat mitigated?
2. The impact on fuel economy. Increased? Decreased?
3. Reliability of the powertrain? Is the increase on load safe for stock over long-term?
Struggling with whether I should get DTUK with all the pros/cons.
Thanks!
So I know DTUK won't be detected by dealer if I deactivate it before sending the car in. I am more curious about:
1. The increase in power. Can you really feel the difference? Is the turbo/transmission lag be somewhat mitigated?
2. The impact on fuel economy. Increased? Decreased?
3. Reliability of the powertrain? Is the increase on load safe for stock over long-term?
Struggling with whether I should get DTUK with all the pros/cons.
Thanks!
05-29-2018, 07:14 PM
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Worth it IMHO
So I currently have the dtuk chip. Here's what I think of it so far;
Power is definitely there. Especially with the usdm tune, it delivers the power very evenly (linear)
Aaron from DTE ; the US distributor for the DTUK chip is very knowledgeable and helpful in getting the perfect settings for your car.
Only thing is if I turn up the + settings to anything beyond 1, I get a CEL.
However, after speaking with Aaron, it is not recommended to put the chip on the + settings unless your car is modified to handle the additional power.
I'm currently running it on 3/0 and 3/1 settings and I've got to say the car is very fast. It even looses traction at launch or from a stop. Pretty cool in my opinion.
I'm on the fence about ordering the throttle controller from them, just don't know how much of a difference it makes.
I for one could definitely vouch for the product as far as it does what you would want a chip to do; provide exceptional power and torque increase.
I tested my 0-60 time with the built in lap timer and was able to achieve 3.9-4.0 seconds with the chip. Incredible, in my opinion.
Also, getting the unit from Aaron @ DTE comes with great customer service and support with any questions or concerns you may have.
As for fuel economy, to tell you the truth, I wouldn't know. Since Ive gotten this usdm tune from Aaron, I haven't been to light on the pedal. I'm not saying I'm driving like a maniac, but definitely using the torque on the car much more often than a normal person would haha.
Just my two cents...
Power is definitely there. Especially with the usdm tune, it delivers the power very evenly (linear)
Aaron from DTE ; the US distributor for the DTUK chip is very knowledgeable and helpful in getting the perfect settings for your car.
Only thing is if I turn up the + settings to anything beyond 1, I get a CEL.
However, after speaking with Aaron, it is not recommended to put the chip on the + settings unless your car is modified to handle the additional power.
I'm currently running it on 3/0 and 3/1 settings and I've got to say the car is very fast. It even looses traction at launch or from a stop. Pretty cool in my opinion.
I'm on the fence about ordering the throttle controller from them, just don't know how much of a difference it makes.
I for one could definitely vouch for the product as far as it does what you would want a chip to do; provide exceptional power and torque increase.
I tested my 0-60 time with the built in lap timer and was able to achieve 3.9-4.0 seconds with the chip. Incredible, in my opinion.
Also, getting the unit from Aaron @ DTE comes with great customer service and support with any questions or concerns you may have.
As for fuel economy, to tell you the truth, I wouldn't know. Since Ive gotten this usdm tune from Aaron, I haven't been to light on the pedal. I'm not saying I'm driving like a maniac, but definitely using the torque on the car much more often than a normal person would haha.
Just my two cents...
05-30-2018, 09:56 AM
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i am the official distributor of DTE Systems in the US. I am located in Hermosa Beach, CA. We have rebranded DTUK here in the States. Can you please clarify the “better supported” statement?
05-30-2018, 10:16 AM
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The DTUK unit is certainly not up to that standard as a product (based on your product page) and costs $749 versus $430 for the JB4 (comparing a5 prices, the S5 is even worse since its still 450, but yours is 950).
But really, you should probably understand your own market before you start challenging users on a forum to prove to you why YOUR OWN product is overpriced and inferior.
05-30-2018, 11:05 AM
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Burger tuning is a much more well known company, JB4 tuning unit provides logging to a PC or phone, full tuning setting support and boost level support down to the tenth of PSI boost adjustment at each RPM level, and the experienced tuners will help you utilize all of that extra adjust ability to achieve the maximum power.
The DTUK unit is certainly not up to that standard as a product (based on your product page) and costs $749 versus $430 for the JB4 (comparing a5 prices, the S5 is even worse since its still 450, but yours is 950).
But really, you should probably understand your own market before you start challenging users on a forum to prove to you why YOUR OWN product is overpriced and inferior.
The DTUK unit is certainly not up to that standard as a product (based on your product page) and costs $749 versus $430 for the JB4 (comparing a5 prices, the S5 is even worse since its still 450, but yours is 950).
But really, you should probably understand your own market before you start challenging users on a forum to prove to you why YOUR OWN product is overpriced and inferior.
i am am sorry if you misunderstood my question. I’m certain I provide very good support for my current and prospective customers. I also know that BMS has not released a module for the S4 yet and any pricing speculation based on their existing product line would be premature since this platform will be their first SENT capable unit. Simply applying the pricing for the analog only product line would most likely not be a direct comparison. When you compare the like units outright including the Bluetooth module, the difference is minor.
The SENT DTE module comes complete with Bluetooth capability standard and the app is included at no extra charge. If you asked who’s app is better, I’d say based on their other platforms, BMS wins that outright. However, I’d put our hardware up against any on the market. Also, do you know where BMS has their tuning center? I was wondering if you knew which model Dyno they tune with?
i don’t want this to become a combative post. I believe the OP was asking whether the DTE performs as advertised. Which it does. I feel I am pretty aware of the my market. I hope I can be of service in any way possible.
05-31-2018, 10:05 AM
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i am am sorry if you misunderstood my question. I’m certain I provide very good support for my current and prospective customers. I also know that BMS has not released a module for the S4 yet and any pricing speculation based on their existing product line would be premature since this platform will be their first SENT capable unit. Simply applying the pricing for the analog only product line would most likely not be a direct comparison. When you compare the like units outright including the Bluetooth module, the difference is minor.
The SENT DTE module comes complete with Bluetooth capability standard and the app is included at no extra charge. If you asked who’s app is better, I’d say based on their other platforms, BMS wins that outright. However, I’d put our hardware up against any on the market. Also, do you know where BMS has their tuning center? I was wondering if you knew which model Dyno they tune with?
i don’t want this to become a combative post. I believe the OP was asking whether the DTE performs as advertised. Which it does. I feel I am pretty aware of the my market. I hope I can be of service in any way possible.
Here is our address and a pic of our S4 soon to be RS5 parked in front of our facility.
Burger Motorsports, Inc.
2235 First St,
Simi Valley, California 93065 USA
When people mention better supported I think they mean larger reach in the market in terms of innovation and progress for the platform. With the S4 for example we have already tuned cars that have hybrid turbo's which allow for a greater in depth look at what is needed with a tuning device and what its limitations will be rather than having a generic conservative unit that does boost control and adapting it to anything with wheels.
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05-31-2018, 10:15 AM
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It should be released soon and we will turn our attention to the RS5 motor next.
05-31-2018, 11:30 AM
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I think there is a misconception about how we tune. We lay out the framework for our tune on the dyno where we can safely take the car through the RPM range and get a baseline for where to go from there. We then make fine adjustments based on a great deal of road tuning. We created a US tune based on the fuel quality here and individual qualities of the US cars. We have hundreds of satisfied customers on this platform around the globe. Many of them have shared their positive experiences here on this forum and others like it.
My point about the BMS S4 module not being released yet is that there is no price point available for comparision unless you'd like to share that with us now. I am sure the BMS S4 offering will create a quality, safe driving experience just as the DTE has.
My point about the BMS S4 module not being released yet is that there is no price point available for comparision unless you'd like to share that with us now. I am sure the BMS S4 offering will create a quality, safe driving experience just as the DTE has.