Performance tune
#1
Audiworld Junior Member
Thread Starter
Performance tune
I am looking for a performance tune on my 2014 Q5 3.0 TDI. I have come across several brands but want to hear what you guys/gals think is the best tune.
#2
#3
Audiworld Junior Member
Thread Starter
No actually there are not enough for my specific vehicle. Not to mention asking a direct and specific question is a more efficient route assuming helpful, rather than unhelpful - time wasting, individuals are on the forum.
#4
Audiworld Junior Member
Thread Starter
No actually there are not enough for my specific vehicle. Not to mention asking a direct and specific question is a more efficient route assuming helpful, rather than unhelpful - time wasting, individuals are on the forum.
#5
AudiWorld Member
The difficulty in your question is that there are likely nearly zero people who have personally tried all the tunes to tell the difference. Malone, APR, and various chip manufactures are all out there. You best bet is rather than wade through the forum posts you figure out what dealers are local to you so you can talk to your tuner. If all you care about is an off the shelf tune that does a specific performance aspect best then just choose one and try it out. If you hate it, sell it, and try something else. If no off the shelf tune works for you then you go to an experienced custom tuner. It depends on how much you want to invest into your car.
Also, and most importantly, you should educate yourself on TD1 and how Audi will treat you if you get flagged. It is no joke, Audi doesn't mess around with tuned cars.
Also, and most importantly, you should educate yourself on TD1 and how Audi will treat you if you get flagged. It is no joke, Audi doesn't mess around with tuned cars.
#6
AudiWorld Super User
Benny-
The problem with any "tune" is that there just never will been enough of them out there to get significant feedback on them. As you increase the performance demands on an engine, any engine, you trade something off. It could be emissions (making you "tune" a federal emissions violation if the car is less than 25 years old, not that many placers enforce that) or it could be a trade-off in engine life. For instance, Indy500 cars were built with typically 10x the hp/ci that stock cars are built with. But, they are also designed to last only 700 miles. 500 for the big race, 100 for break-in, 100 for "just in case". That's a real "performance tune" but when it cuts the engine life to 700 miles, do you want it?
And despite the FTC's recently reminding corporations about warranty obligations (they have to prove your mod broke something before they can walk away from the warranty) I can also very much see Audi, or anyone else, saying "The engine is computer controlled, you changed the computer, how do we know what the hell you did to it?" the same way that simply using a factory "Launch" mode also ends the warranty on other makes.
I'd want a vendor that has both "academic" and street cred, has been in business for ten years, and doesn't have massive posts about "they blew up my engine" or "total waste of time". But I'd still be wary of what they were doing, unless they could provide a lot of technical specs when I contacted them.
I know I'd seen one Audi dealer's "flip side" actually offering to sell one expensive brand, so presumably they were confident it would eat engines up. But that's going to vary with who is around you, and it wasn't cheap.
FWIW.
The problem with any "tune" is that there just never will been enough of them out there to get significant feedback on them. As you increase the performance demands on an engine, any engine, you trade something off. It could be emissions (making you "tune" a federal emissions violation if the car is less than 25 years old, not that many placers enforce that) or it could be a trade-off in engine life. For instance, Indy500 cars were built with typically 10x the hp/ci that stock cars are built with. But, they are also designed to last only 700 miles. 500 for the big race, 100 for break-in, 100 for "just in case". That's a real "performance tune" but when it cuts the engine life to 700 miles, do you want it?
And despite the FTC's recently reminding corporations about warranty obligations (they have to prove your mod broke something before they can walk away from the warranty) I can also very much see Audi, or anyone else, saying "The engine is computer controlled, you changed the computer, how do we know what the hell you did to it?" the same way that simply using a factory "Launch" mode also ends the warranty on other makes.
I'd want a vendor that has both "academic" and street cred, has been in business for ten years, and doesn't have massive posts about "they blew up my engine" or "total waste of time". But I'd still be wary of what they were doing, unless they could provide a lot of technical specs when I contacted them.
I know I'd seen one Audi dealer's "flip side" actually offering to sell one expensive brand, so presumably they were confident it would eat engines up. But that's going to vary with who is around you, and it wasn't cheap.
FWIW.
#7
Audiworld Junior Member
Thread Starter
The difficulty in your question is that there are likely nearly zero people who have personally tried all the tunes to tell the difference. Malone, APR, and various chip manufactures are all out there. You best bet is rather than wade through the forum posts you figure out what dealers are local to you so you can talk to your tuner. If all you care about is an off the shelf tune that does a specific performance aspect best then just choose one and try it out. If you hate it, sell it, and try something else. If no off the shelf tune works for you then you go to an experienced custom tuner. It depends on how much you want to invest into your car.
Also, and most importantly, you should educate yourself on TD1 and how Audi will treat you if you get flagged. It is no joke, Audi doesn't mess around with tuned cars.
Also, and most importantly, you should educate yourself on TD1 and how Audi will treat you if you get flagged. It is no joke, Audi doesn't mess around with tuned cars.
Thanks again.
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#8
Audiworld Junior Member
Thread Starter
Redd,
Thank you for the feedback. I am very familiar with tunes and have had many custom tunes done on all my vehicles. Everything from basic daily drivers to race cars. This audi would obviously fall within the daily category and I am looking for just a decent bump in power and to remove the factory restrictions. Finding the reputable Audi tuning company is my goal.
The warranty concerns are of course always there and getting a tune that is easily removable is also a key factor. As well as my reasoning for not getting a down pipe just yet. It seems like APR is the way to go at this point.
Thanks again.
Thank you for the feedback. I am very familiar with tunes and have had many custom tunes done on all my vehicles. Everything from basic daily drivers to race cars. This audi would obviously fall within the daily category and I am looking for just a decent bump in power and to remove the factory restrictions. Finding the reputable Audi tuning company is my goal.
The warranty concerns are of course always there and getting a tune that is easily removable is also a key factor. As well as my reasoning for not getting a down pipe just yet. It seems like APR is the way to go at this point.
Thanks again.
#9
AudiWorld Super User
Benny-
Stray thought: Maybe the guys at ecstuning would have a recommendation for you. Or ask some of the other generally well-thought-of suppliers on the web. Maybe even ask the few Audi dealers that readily admit things like dipsticks DO exist and can be sold. To me, that indicates they're working at least part time in the real world, they may have referrals on this.
Stray thought: Maybe the guys at ecstuning would have a recommendation for you. Or ask some of the other generally well-thought-of suppliers on the web. Maybe even ask the few Audi dealers that readily admit things like dipsticks DO exist and can be sold. To me, that indicates they're working at least part time in the real world, they may have referrals on this.
#10
Audiworld Junior Member
Thread Starter
Benny-
Stray thought: Maybe the guys at ecstuning would have a recommendation for you. Or ask some of the other generally well-thought-of suppliers on the web. Maybe even ask the few Audi dealers that readily admit things like dipsticks DO exist and can be sold. To me, that indicates they're working at least part time in the real world, they may have referrals on this.
Stray thought: Maybe the guys at ecstuning would have a recommendation for you. Or ask some of the other generally well-thought-of suppliers on the web. Maybe even ask the few Audi dealers that readily admit things like dipsticks DO exist and can be sold. To me, that indicates they're working at least part time in the real world, they may have referrals on this.
Thanks again. Ill continue to ask around and hopefully get a confident answer from a dealer soon.
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Thanks in advance