SunSeTT - Lab RaTT

I have heard they are both great, but figured I would ask the group.. I was told with the FORGE I have to cut around the bumper and the APR was direct fit.. any pros/cons other than the cutting to either one of these? Any info greatly appreciated.

GorTT

but I like the forge, and the effort isn't necessarily a bad thing.

SunSeTT - Lab RaTT

300.00 either way (meaning apr or forge) so figured since forge is local I would go with them, plus im getting a great deal! I just didnt want to tear the car up too much...

Other than the manifold swap, and pros/cons? I heard guys saying they had problems with the Forge - saying they had the temp's all over the place, and with the APR it was steady and less hoses etc..

GorTT

your mechanic's way off if he say's he'll do both for the same price - swapping the mainfold is at least another one to two hours and by the way, I'd get the evoheatshield phenolic gasket if the manifold's coming off (extra $100 or so, but no additional labor), helps optimize the FMIC effort.

SunSeTT - Lab RaTT

He just laid out a flat price to do them, I also have to have the turbo replaced while im there (sigh.)

And I just noticed you had a K04 on yours! (cries.) LOL I want to put one on mine but can't find any nor what kind to put on the car as a direct replacment.

So this evo heatshild thing... way better than the gasket that comes with the forge one?

RoberTT-WWCD

Uses the top down approch. I removed the alians because of my setup. But I hear you don't need to.

Also, it's a little cheaper than the forge and I think for the 180, it's a better design.

tylor

Here are a few pictures... it keeps the OEM intake manifold, uses the cross-tube (used in the 225 SMIC set-up), and includes DV relocation:

<img src="http://www.tcarbon.com/images/fmic/mk1tt180/180fmic_1.jpg">
<img src="http://www.tcarbon.com/images/fmic/mk1tt180/180fmic_2.jpg">
<img src="http://www.tcarbon.com/images/fmic/mk1tt180/180fmic_3.jpg">
<img src="http://www.tcarbon.com/images/fmic/mk1tt180/180fmic_4.jpg">
<img src="http://www.tcarbon.com/images/fmic/mk1tt180/180fmic_5.jpg">
<img src="http://www.tcarbon.com/images/fmic/mk1tt180/180fmic_6.jpg">

PS- Did you check Vortex for the K04? I saw one available just a few days ago.

GorTT

It's a K04-01, great upgrade for a fwd given the weight difference from quattros. I got it separately, then had APR upgrade my existing programming for it - and there might be a charge, like $200 (that's 'sort of' per their site - and I kept asking the local dealer who did it to pay them something, but they kept saying no, no charge, so I took it and thanked them very much). The turbo will set you back in the range of 800, irc.<ul><li><a href="http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/products/BorgWarner_K04_001-36-85.html">http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/products/BorgWarner_K04_001-36-85.html</a</li></ul>

GorTT

<center><img src="http://www.tcarbon.com/images/fmic/mk1tt180/180fmic_6.jpg"></center><p>
the nipple looks short for the dv relo, but I'm curious nevertheless - I want to integrate an SFS dv relo hose with my forge 180 fmic. Currently running the forge dvrelo kit, but want to swap to the sfs or a forge 225 dv relo just to clean things up a bit; I have a standard 225 MAP pipe I thought I'd use to pull it off, but might be able to make what I see work a bit better if you'd consider selling me just that part. If email's ok, let me shoot you one tonight when I have access to all my pics and facts.

Scenic Driver

I had to cut the alien mounting bracket on mine