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I've searched a bit on HPA haldex upgrade, how is that compared to B7 A4 quattro?

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Old 08-01-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default I've searched a bit on HPA haldex upgrade, how is that compared to B7 A4 quattro?

I had a C230coupe and now a B7 quattro and I enjoy the RWD and the current rear-biased AWD (both after thicker sway bars and stiffer susp). I understand the TT has haldex (VW 4motion?) and I've read HPA Sport/Competition haldex controllers. I've read good things about them and wondering how diff will the TT feel if I get one (considering 2002 225TT quattro) stock vs stock B7 quattro I have now. Has anyone done a comparison drive? I'm thinking about visiting a dealer soon and hope they still have some MK1 to test drive...TIA
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Default 1) completely different systems 2)B7 has rear awd bias? 3)4motion has nothing to do with haldex

(some 4motion cars have torsen)

5) Controller will improve things and provide for a quicker response but the stock haldex doesn't really need improvement for 99.999% of the drivers. Honestly if you're looking for a car with MUCH better driving dynamics, TT is not the right choice to begin with.

6) I only notice AWD difference between TT and A4 in the snow, where TT wants to under steer a bit more.
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B7 A4 doesn't have rear bias - only S4 and RS4
Old 08-01-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Sorry dude, haldex also makes VW's 4Motion system

Thats why the R32 and the 3.2TT are nearly identical under the skin. The cool part is even the mighty Bugatti Veryon uses Haldex.

Check it out.<ul><li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex</a</li></ul>
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But only when Torsen doesn't make the 4Motion system
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2007 S4 also? I thought it was just an RS4 exclussive.
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Nope, the S[4/6/8] cars are getting it now too.
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exactly. Old passat = torsen, new passat = haldex.............both "4 motion"
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ALL A4 50% bias under normal driving, so obviously not rear biased
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Actually VERY old Passat = Syncro and VERY old Audi = no Torsen Quattro :-)


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