Question for the golfers.
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Question for the golfers.
What is your opinion of Golden Bear clubs? I am trying to search out an inexepensive (under $300) club set for a beginner golfer. If not Golden Bear, any other recommendations?
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If the irons are perimeter weighted, they should be fine for any beginner.
before buying those, I would look for a set of used clubs including...
Titelist DCI or
Ping Eye2
They maybe a little more expensive but you can keep them if/when you get better.
Titelist DCI or
Ping Eye2
They maybe a little more expensive but you can keep them if/when you get better.
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Many retailers take clubs in on trade now, so you might also look at a used set from a manufacturer
that would normally sell for much higher new. A set of irons that cost $800-900 new would probably sell for less than half of that.
This would also allow them to get good graphite shafts (they are much easier to swing than steel shafts, for beginners that is) as most of the better club lines feature good shafts (for a beginner, get regular flex, don't go for stiff or extra stiff shafts)
Oh, and the same applies to woods too. :-)
This would also allow them to get good graphite shafts (they are much easier to swing than steel shafts, for beginners that is) as most of the better club lines feature good shafts (for a beginner, get regular flex, don't go for stiff or extra stiff shafts)
Oh, and the same applies to woods too. :-)
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if you can still find the Top Flite Tour clubs, they are great for cheap. not the new xl2000 line..
otherwise, i'd agree to try and find some used clubs. the ping i3 are supposed to be very forgiving, and if you get pings, you can always get them re-configured for your body/swing... (i'm sure other clubs can be altered, but ping makes a big deal out of it).
adams also makes irons that are supposed to be great overall, and very forgiving as well.
i like these guy's reviews...<ul><li><a href="http://www.hamegg.org/main/">Ham & Egg</a></li></ul>
adams also makes irons that are supposed to be great overall, and very forgiving as well.
i like these guy's reviews...<ul><li><a href="http://www.hamegg.org/main/">Ham & Egg</a></li></ul>
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No, at the beginning, it is important to learn the fundamentals of swing, grip, posture, etc., and
these have nothing to do with the type of shaft used. However, a flexible shaft, just like a perimeter weighted head, is more forgiving, increases the clubhead speed for slower swing speeds (which most beginners have, until they get the confidence to swing harder) and the added flex helps get the ball up faster, and has less shock.
The idea with a beginner is to make the game as easy as possible so they can concentrate on the fundamentals. Once they get better, they can switch to steel. Steel is used primarily by better players because it has more feel, and being stiffer, allows them to shape their shots more, but the key is "better players".
A beginner cannot take advantage of the benefits of steel, but can be hindered by their negative aspects. Just like a beginner should not use a Titleist Pro V1, as they cannot feel or take advantage of the benefits, and considering how many ***** they will lose at the start, it's far better to lose a ball that cost you $1 instead of $3 :-)
Of course, all this is only my opinion, your mileage may vary :-)
The idea with a beginner is to make the game as easy as possible so they can concentrate on the fundamentals. Once they get better, they can switch to steel. Steel is used primarily by better players because it has more feel, and being stiffer, allows them to shape their shots more, but the key is "better players".
A beginner cannot take advantage of the benefits of steel, but can be hindered by their negative aspects. Just like a beginner should not use a Titleist Pro V1, as they cannot feel or take advantage of the benefits, and considering how many ***** they will lose at the start, it's far better to lose a ball that cost you $1 instead of $3 :-)
Of course, all this is only my opinion, your mileage may vary :-)
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that all makes sense, i was just advised differently (perhaps wrong)
i was told that having graphite shafts would make it more difficult to learn a proper swing since i would have a tendency to "overswing" since the club is lighter. but i see what you're saying and it makes sense. asking golfers for advise is akin to asking economists... ask 2 and get 3 opinions (something like that anyway).
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That is not a pro line club -- Prices are coming down -- I saw a set of Orlimar Scoring Irons - for
$299 in Steel and $399 in Graphite. I see new Taylor Made Irons (older model) for about the same. Find a pro line discounter online or at a GolfSmith.
Stay with the pro line names so you can trade in your clubs after you learn how to swing and then get a set of clubs that actually fits you -- by getting fitted by someone (not a retailer) who knows what they are doing.
Stay with the pro line names so you can trade in your clubs after you learn how to swing and then get a set of clubs that actually fits you -- by getting fitted by someone (not a retailer) who knows what they are doing.
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He is right -- as to shaft flex and type depends on your strength, age
how serious you intend to be about the game, etc. If you are between 20 through your 40s and in good shape and regular strength then a light steel shaft should work. You should actually find or talk to a retailer or buddy that is very knowledgeable and will spend time answering your questions.
Graphite shafts are lighter, a bit less accurate or consistent than steel but will allow you to swing faster b/c of the lighter weight. Flex will vary by manufacturer -- difficult to compare one manuf's flex with another in graphite or steel unless they are using the same shaft
Just be careful
Graphite shafts are lighter, a bit less accurate or consistent than steel but will allow you to swing faster b/c of the lighter weight. Flex will vary by manufacturer -- difficult to compare one manuf's flex with another in graphite or steel unless they are using the same shaft
Just be careful