??Question??... Who drives with their ESP on?
07-14-2001, 08:43 PM
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I always drive with mine on.
I can only tell a difference when autocrossing or in limited traction situations, ie: snow, gravel, etc.
I turn it off occasionally when I want to play, but I leave it on the rest of the time because I'd rather have that little extra security. I don't push my car hard enough on a regular basis to get ESP to do anything. I launch hard sometimes, but not enough to spin the wheels, so ESP doesn't come on. I push the car to the egde of traction in turns, but not past it, so ESP doesn't come on. I feel that if you're pushing your car hard enough on the street to get ESP to come on in the first place, you're just showing off, and you would probably be moving faster if you pushed it just UNDER the threshold for ESP.
I was told by a pro autocross guy that if you're getting the tires to squeel, you're losing time. ESP doesn't come on till well after the tires are sqeeling...More like when they're screaming (at least on my car.)
Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, because I know someone will.
I turn it off occasionally when I want to play, but I leave it on the rest of the time because I'd rather have that little extra security. I don't push my car hard enough on a regular basis to get ESP to do anything. I launch hard sometimes, but not enough to spin the wheels, so ESP doesn't come on. I push the car to the egde of traction in turns, but not past it, so ESP doesn't come on. I feel that if you're pushing your car hard enough on the street to get ESP to come on in the first place, you're just showing off, and you would probably be moving faster if you pushed it just UNDER the threshold for ESP.
I was told by a pro autocross guy that if you're getting the tires to squeel, you're losing time. ESP doesn't come on till well after the tires are sqeeling...More like when they're screaming (at least on my car.)
Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, because I know someone will.
07-14-2001, 08:53 PM
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For me, I feel it can do more harm then good.
About a week into owning the car I wound up in an emergency situation where I had to accelerate to avoid oncoming traffic and an n accident. I can still remember the car just sitting there, I felt like a dead duck. Thankfully I did not get hurt
I thought there was something wrong with the car. Imagine my shock when I was told that it is a safety feature. Any feature that takes the wheel out of my hands and puts it into a computers is not my definition of safe.
I thought there was something wrong with the car. Imagine my shock when I was told that it is a safety feature. Any feature that takes the wheel out of my hands and puts it into a computers is not my definition of safe.
07-15-2001, 04:04 AM
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Do. I don't want to look at the "off" light. Besides so many here rave about the wonderful German
engineering, and then immediately turn off something that was probably some rather complicated engineering. Go figure. BTW, I am well aware of the reasons for turning it off, and do so when I take a certain cloverleaf at about 95!
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07-15-2001, 03:44 PM
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What ESP really stands for:
Electronic Suppression of Performance.
On the good word of the lovely denizens of this board, I tried a little run with the damned thing disengaged... and it was like driving a whole new car. She positively leaped with joy off the line, and moved like she suddenly lost 1000 pounds or more of curb weight. (Strange term, "curb weight", since I can't find the curb anywhere on the car itself. What about the rest of it? What do you call its weight? Oh, the many mysteries of car ownership).
But I digress. My Raven's answer to the ESP question is a decided "Nevermore!".
On the good word of the lovely denizens of this board, I tried a little run with the damned thing disengaged... and it was like driving a whole new car. She positively leaped with joy off the line, and moved like she suddenly lost 1000 pounds or more of curb weight. (Strange term, "curb weight", since I can't find the curb anywhere on the car itself. What about the rest of it? What do you call its weight? Oh, the many mysteries of car ownership).
But I digress. My Raven's answer to the ESP question is a decided "Nevermore!".
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