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Tire poll : S-03, P-zero, Goodyear F1 (or 2?), or Kuhmos ?

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Old 08-30-2003, 09:55 AM
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Default Tire poll : S-03, P-zero, Goodyear F1 (or 2?), or Kuhmos ?

I know that it's been done before, but I don't know about the Goodyears. I am ready to order wheels so I must be sure on my choice. Which ones stick better on the road, offer the best handling and grip? I don't care about convenience and I hate noise... And what about Kuhmos. Are they ok? What advantages and disadvantages do they have and what sectors are they better at?
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Default just had P-ZEROs mounted yesterday

big improvement on the niosy Yokohama AVS Sports... I'd say, go with either S-03s or P-Zeros.
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Default Kuhmos are cheaper, stick well, but will wear faster, I suspect...

Deep center groove really helps in the rain, but it's been 60 days since we've had decent rain here.
I've noticed they squeal a bit when I corner *real* hard, but I suspect that at those speeds, etc., any tire would.

I have almost 10K miles on 'em already, drove out and back to California this summer, and really liked them.
No noise.

I think the S0-3's would be better, but the K's are a cheap alternative.

(P.S. I had Goodyear tires years ago and hated them.)
Old 08-30-2003, 10:24 AM
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Default Check Tire Racks reviews since most of us have used maybe one or two of your choices....

and only you know whether you want dry handling, wet handling, good milage and least noise. Each has varying sidewall stiffness, longevity and traction and less than 20k useful life. Get one and later try another. I like the Pilot Sports though may try the Kumho or Michelin R-compounds next or get another set of PS if the price is right.
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Default P-Zero Nero!!>>>

the are on par with the S03s as far as handling goes... slightly less capable... but nothing you'd ever notice on the street I'd guess.

They are quieter, ride better and wear better than the S03s though...

and heres the kicker... the S03 is one heavy son of a bitch! Not sure what size you are running... but in 225/40/18 the S03 weighs a portly 28lbs!!! where the Pzero only weighs 22lbs. For comparison, the Contisport 2 that comes stock on OEM 18s weighs 21lbs

and believe me... you can FEEL that weight
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Default Goodyear F1, Goodyear F1, Goodyear F1

check www.tirerack.com and see the reviews. completely mindblowing!!!
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don't forget the yoko avs es100's had them after the kumhos and loved em.
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Default Interesting... Have the weights on Toyo Proxes?

I remember a thread on how much lighter they were than S-03s.
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Default Not the Proxes... but the T1S is 22lbs as well

you can go to the wheel and tire forum and post a request to gary@tirerack and he can usually get the weights for you!
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Love the Toyo T1S. But they whine after 10k miles.


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