This is why you still have to "read" news and not rely on television...
10-14-2001, 07:46 AM
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This is why you still have to "read" news and not rely on television...
New York Times, October 14, 2001
AL QAEDA
Bin Laden Spokesman Threatens Westerners
By SUSAN SACHS with BILL CARTER
CAIRO, Sunday, Oct. 14 -- A Kuwaiti spokesman for Osama bin Laden issued a blistering televised threat today to kill Westerners, whether in their home countries or in the Persian Gulf area. In the process, he directly linked the bin Laden network to the attacks in the United States on Sept. 11.
The spokesman, Suleiman Abu Ghaith, an Islamic preacher from Kuwait, urged Muslims to continue to demonstrate against the bombing of Afghanistan and warned the United States that "the storms will not calm down, especially the storm of airplanes, until you see defeat in Afghanistan."
He ended his brief recorded message with a threat of more attacks on civilians and cities.
Continuing a series of television appearances this week, and speaking in defense of Mr. bin Laden, Mr. Abu Gheith warned "Muslims in the United States and in Britain, and children and others who are against the unjust American policy, not to travel by airplanes and not to live in high buildings or skyscrapers."
In the United States television networks were extremely wary of showing the broadcast.
Mr. Abu Gheith in his appearance on Al Jazeera, a satellite network, invoked divine support. "Greatness is for Allah, his prophets and the faithful," he said, "but the infidels do not know it."
The network, based in Qatar on the Persian Gulf, is a popular source of news through the Arabic-speaking world.
Its coverage of the effects of the American bombing of Afghanistan -- it has been the only international television station with camera crews in Kabul -- has been used by CNN, BBC and other outlets since the airstrikes began a week ago.
In Washington on Saturday evening the White House quickly dismissed the tape as propaganda.
The Bush administration has complained that Al Jazeera and other stations have acted irresponsibly by showing speeches from Mr. bin Laden and his associates, and it has suggested that the messages might contain coded instructions to terrorist cells.
The effects of that reprimand were made clear today when this latest broadside in the propaganda war was released. CNN waited an hour after Al Jazeera's broadcast to mention the threat and then only summarized parts of the speech.
American officials, despite their irritation with Al Jazeera, might extract some degree of comfort from signs that the station is doing the antiterrorism campaign a favor or sorts by broadcasting the crude threats without first scensoring them.
Many ordinary Arabs and commentators in the Arabic-language media had rejected American accusations that Mr. bin Laden and his network, Al Qaeda, were responsible for the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But in threatening death by planes that will fly into skyscrapers, Mr. Abu Ghaith inadvertently seemed to acknowledge Al Qaeda's responsibility for the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11. And lately, more commentators say they accept that his network caused the attacks.
None of the American TV news networks broadcast live any portion of a latest statement, and for the most part they paraphrased his comments in very brief reports.
The cable news networks, CNN, MSNBC and Fox News. all used either a very brief clip or a still picture of Mr. Abu Gheith, and summarized his comments, saying they contained new accusations and threats against the United States, and labeling them as propaganda.
None of the broadcast networks had national evening newscasts last night, though CBS News did have a newscast solely for its West Coast stations.
A CBS News spokeswoman said the network planned to use "no more than 10 seconds" of Mr. Gheith's comments on that newscast. The networks covered college football games last evening and none of them interrupted those games to mention the new statement from Al Qaeda.
The coverage was in sharp contrast to coverage of al Jazeera broadcasts earlier in the week.
But the networks, after meeting with the national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, on Wednesday, came to an agreement among themselves that they would no longer broadcast any statements from Al Qaeda without previously viewing them and subjecting them to their editing process.
Executives from several of the network said last night that they had simply followed normal procedure with regard to last night's tape.
But a spokeswoman for CNN said that that network had instituted a new committee of senior executives to review any new tapes issued by Al Qaeda. The committee made the decision on how to handle last night's statement, the spokeswoman said,
It was not clear where Mr. abu Ghaith was when he recorded the latest screed. He was pictured sitting, dressed in a white turban, against a backdrop that appeared to be a curtain of canvas or some other material. He went down a list of grievances and Muslim causes and mentioned everyone from the Palestinians to Iraqis and Muslims in Kashmir as victims of American and Jewish aggression.
But his message also underscored Mr. bin Laden's preoccupation with the Persian Gulf and his long-standing attacks on the rulers of Saudi Arabia as false Muslims.
Much of the speech was devoted to demands that Americans and other westerners leave the gulf. Mr. bin Laden has attacked the presence of American troops in Saudi Arabia, where he was born.
Mr. abu Ghaith, in a threat that appeared to include any non-Muslim in the gulf, said the Qaeda organization orders all Westerners out of the area.
" If their mothers care about their sons, they have to tell them to leave the peninsula because the land will get burned underneath their feet," he said.
Sounding frustrated with the decisions of Muslim foreign ministers at last week's Organization of the Islamic Conference in Qatar, which did not condemn the American bombing campaign, Mr. abu Ghaith also said those officials do not represent Muslims.
And any Muslim or Muslim leader who cooperates with Christians and Jews, he added, should be considered an apostate.
"Those who supported this campaign have to realize the reality that it a Crusader attack aimed at Islam," he said.
Mr. abu Ghaith, a well-known figure in Kuwait where he railed against the government and the Parliament as un-Islamic, has been effectively disowned by the Kuwaiti rulers. Kuwait officials, describing his affiliation with Mr. bin Laden as traitorous, said they have revoked his citizenship.
AL QAEDA
Bin Laden Spokesman Threatens Westerners
By SUSAN SACHS with BILL CARTER
CAIRO, Sunday, Oct. 14 -- A Kuwaiti spokesman for Osama bin Laden issued a blistering televised threat today to kill Westerners, whether in their home countries or in the Persian Gulf area. In the process, he directly linked the bin Laden network to the attacks in the United States on Sept. 11.
The spokesman, Suleiman Abu Ghaith, an Islamic preacher from Kuwait, urged Muslims to continue to demonstrate against the bombing of Afghanistan and warned the United States that "the storms will not calm down, especially the storm of airplanes, until you see defeat in Afghanistan."
He ended his brief recorded message with a threat of more attacks on civilians and cities.
Continuing a series of television appearances this week, and speaking in defense of Mr. bin Laden, Mr. Abu Gheith warned "Muslims in the United States and in Britain, and children and others who are against the unjust American policy, not to travel by airplanes and not to live in high buildings or skyscrapers."
In the United States television networks were extremely wary of showing the broadcast.
Mr. Abu Gheith in his appearance on Al Jazeera, a satellite network, invoked divine support. "Greatness is for Allah, his prophets and the faithful," he said, "but the infidels do not know it."
The network, based in Qatar on the Persian Gulf, is a popular source of news through the Arabic-speaking world.
Its coverage of the effects of the American bombing of Afghanistan -- it has been the only international television station with camera crews in Kabul -- has been used by CNN, BBC and other outlets since the airstrikes began a week ago.
In Washington on Saturday evening the White House quickly dismissed the tape as propaganda.
The Bush administration has complained that Al Jazeera and other stations have acted irresponsibly by showing speeches from Mr. bin Laden and his associates, and it has suggested that the messages might contain coded instructions to terrorist cells.
The effects of that reprimand were made clear today when this latest broadside in the propaganda war was released. CNN waited an hour after Al Jazeera's broadcast to mention the threat and then only summarized parts of the speech.
American officials, despite their irritation with Al Jazeera, might extract some degree of comfort from signs that the station is doing the antiterrorism campaign a favor or sorts by broadcasting the crude threats without first scensoring them.
Many ordinary Arabs and commentators in the Arabic-language media had rejected American accusations that Mr. bin Laden and his network, Al Qaeda, were responsible for the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But in threatening death by planes that will fly into skyscrapers, Mr. Abu Ghaith inadvertently seemed to acknowledge Al Qaeda's responsibility for the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11. And lately, more commentators say they accept that his network caused the attacks.
None of the American TV news networks broadcast live any portion of a latest statement, and for the most part they paraphrased his comments in very brief reports.
The cable news networks, CNN, MSNBC and Fox News. all used either a very brief clip or a still picture of Mr. Abu Gheith, and summarized his comments, saying they contained new accusations and threats against the United States, and labeling them as propaganda.
None of the broadcast networks had national evening newscasts last night, though CBS News did have a newscast solely for its West Coast stations.
A CBS News spokeswoman said the network planned to use "no more than 10 seconds" of Mr. Gheith's comments on that newscast. The networks covered college football games last evening and none of them interrupted those games to mention the new statement from Al Qaeda.
The coverage was in sharp contrast to coverage of al Jazeera broadcasts earlier in the week.
But the networks, after meeting with the national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, on Wednesday, came to an agreement among themselves that they would no longer broadcast any statements from Al Qaeda without previously viewing them and subjecting them to their editing process.
Executives from several of the network said last night that they had simply followed normal procedure with regard to last night's tape.
But a spokeswoman for CNN said that that network had instituted a new committee of senior executives to review any new tapes issued by Al Qaeda. The committee made the decision on how to handle last night's statement, the spokeswoman said,
It was not clear where Mr. abu Ghaith was when he recorded the latest screed. He was pictured sitting, dressed in a white turban, against a backdrop that appeared to be a curtain of canvas or some other material. He went down a list of grievances and Muslim causes and mentioned everyone from the Palestinians to Iraqis and Muslims in Kashmir as victims of American and Jewish aggression.
But his message also underscored Mr. bin Laden's preoccupation with the Persian Gulf and his long-standing attacks on the rulers of Saudi Arabia as false Muslims.
Much of the speech was devoted to demands that Americans and other westerners leave the gulf. Mr. bin Laden has attacked the presence of American troops in Saudi Arabia, where he was born.
Mr. abu Ghaith, in a threat that appeared to include any non-Muslim in the gulf, said the Qaeda organization orders all Westerners out of the area.
" If their mothers care about their sons, they have to tell them to leave the peninsula because the land will get burned underneath their feet," he said.
Sounding frustrated with the decisions of Muslim foreign ministers at last week's Organization of the Islamic Conference in Qatar, which did not condemn the American bombing campaign, Mr. abu Ghaith also said those officials do not represent Muslims.
And any Muslim or Muslim leader who cooperates with Christians and Jews, he added, should be considered an apostate.
"Those who supported this campaign have to realize the reality that it a Crusader attack aimed at Islam," he said.
Mr. abu Ghaith, a well-known figure in Kuwait where he railed against the government and the Parliament as un-Islamic, has been effectively disowned by the Kuwaiti rulers. Kuwait officials, describing his affiliation with Mr. bin Laden as traitorous, said they have revoked his citizenship.
10-14-2001, 07:53 AM
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What to do about Bin Laden
Don't make him a martyr by killing him or taking him to court.
Take him to the nearest hospital, give him a complete sex-change operation, send him back to Afghanistan to live as a woman under fundamentalist Islamic laws.
Far-fetched but fun to think about!
Take him to the nearest hospital, give him a complete sex-change operation, send him back to Afghanistan to live as a woman under fundamentalist Islamic laws.
Far-fetched but fun to think about!
10-14-2001, 11:28 AM
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These guys wanna play with germs, so Pneumonic Plague introduced via radical places of worship would
spread through the networks like wildfire. It's time to take the gloves off. The less news coverage the better, IMO. We don't need to know about a smart bomb that strayed off. It is a war.
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