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mvwood 02-15-2019 01:37 PM

Gripes
 
Hi All,

Proud owner of a S5 Sportback as of a few months ago. Love the car and happy with it and all that, but I like complaining so figured I would set out the issues I have with the car and see whether others have these issues/views as well.

In no particular order:

- The privacy cover on the sportback rattled like crazy. Had to take it off. The entire setup seems insecure and not designed with any concern for noise

- The break pedal clicks. Like a mechanical click on a mouse where plastic gears click against each other. Sometimes it isn't too bad but sometimes there are a whole bunch of little points in the depress range which make it click multiple times on the way down and back up. When moving in slow traffic with the pedal partially depressed it can end up in a sort of reverse a sweet spot where it clicks repeatedly as it trips over the threshold down and up over and over again. Is driving me a bit nuts and hoping it is something wrong rather than some sort of purposeful noise or design flaw.

- The camera placement/shielding is really bad. A tiny bit of rain or snow and it is basically unusable.

- The sensors are way too sensitive. Pulling in and out of the garage it is always telling me my side is right up against something even though I'm clearly not. The solid warning noise is supposed to be for when any movement is going to hit something, not just you are close enough to pay attention. Much more sensitive than my last car (Merc C43)

- Related issue, when raining or snowing the sensors go off constantly. Much more sensitive than the last car, though it had an issue like that too.

- Have only had happen it once so far, but sitting at a red light it apparently thought I was going to be in an accident and "pre-sensed) the seat and seatbelt. Really uncomfortable and annoying but hopefully that was a one-off.

- The gas tank is small. Didn't think it would be such a big deal, but with city commuting in the winter I got like 250km on my last tank. The remaining gas estimator is also pretty terrible, since it went on at 80km left when I was at home but by the time I drove 10km to the office and a few km home it had already dropped to 20. It knew what my mileage was on that tank so I don't know why it can't be more accurate with estimated remaining mileage or it could be so off when the commutes were all exactly the same. Worries me I am going to run out of gas one of these days and for the first time in a long time I have range anxiety in a car. Hate having to fill up more than every other week.

Other smaller things:

- It would be good if smartconnect/Carplay had a dedicated button on the console. When switching between Waze and the radio it is an unnecessary cumbersome process when you don't want to cycle through stations one at a time or use the steering wheel click dial (which isn't very good).

- Still don't understand why they couldn't put in active TPS sensors so I could actually see the tire pressure. Virtually every other car maker does this.

- They should have put in an automatic steering wheel adjuster so it could be set with driver memory. Annoying to have to move it when my wife drives and not a lot to ask for on a car in this product space.

- Less of an issue now that I'm used to it, but the blind spot monitor is also overly sensitive and when combined with mirrors that do not have the best range of vision, is unfortunate. My last car if the light was on I couldn't go and if it wasn't on I could, and I had confidence in it. This one goes on really early and cars going the same speed several car lengths back can still set it off. Luckily it doesn't beep (although I would have preferred it was accurate and beeped instead of how it works now). That said, you learn its quirks pretty quickly and the adjustment hasn't been terrible.

- I don't like that you need to set the sound for every input. Would have been good to have some sort of master set if they are going to add functionality for variation between inputs. Was more annoying than anything but not the biggest of deals.


Anyways, still very glad I got the car. Drive is solid, great interior, exterior looks amazing and love having the trunk space. But what's the point of living if you can't complain about everything...

BlackOptic 02-15-2019 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by mvwood (Post 25276969)
Still don't understand why they couldn't put in active TPS sensors so I could actually see the tire pressure. Virtually every other car maker does this.

I am not a great fan of actual TPMS in that I have to switch wheel sets for winter and summer. No re-programming required for most Audis. Since my greatest concern is knowing whether I have a flat or not (as opposed to race-ready warm/cold actual temperatures), I am fine with the wheel-rotation monitoring system.

Nikon1 02-15-2019 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by BlackOptic (Post 25276982)
I am not a great fan of actual TPMS in that I have to switch wheel sets for winter and summer. No re-programming required for most Audis. Since my greatest concern is knowing whether I have a flat or not (as opposed to race-ready warm/cold actual temperatures), I am fine with the wheel-rotation monitoring system.

X2. I have the 19” Cavos with Summer Tires and the 18” Split Spoke Stock Audi Wheels with A/S Tires. Not having to worry about “reprogramming” of actual pressure dependent system makes switching wheels & tires so much easier.

Trade_it_all_4_more 02-15-2019 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Nikon1 (Post 25277013)
X2. I have the 19” Cavos with Summer Tires and the 18” Split Spoke Stock Audi Wheels with A/S Tires. Not having to worry about “reprogramming” of actual pressure dependent system makes switching wheels & tires so much easier.

While I have the same sentiment, I found out my wife's Grand Cherokee TPMS system automatically determines the wheel location within the 1st 10 miles of driving (after rotating tires, exchanging winter / summer tires). I would think that if Jeep is doing it, most other high end makers are doing it as well. Granted, I think it was another $150-$200 when I bought the winter wheels/tires to get the TPMS sensors.

IvanLZ 02-15-2019 03:13 PM

I agree the gas estimator is really bad. I also drive an X5 and the estimator is spot on since it will fluctuate up and down as you drive. The S5 is just dead set on a number and once you drive slightly aggressive it will just jump down immediately. However when you drive soft on the pedal the number won't go back up instead it will just stay the same.

Nikon1 02-15-2019 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Trade_it_all_4_more (Post 25277017)
While I have the same sentiment, I found out my wife's Grand Cherokee TPMS system automatically determines the wheel location within the 1st 10 miles of driving (after rotating tires, exchanging winter / summer tires). I would think that if Jeep is doing it, most other high end makers are doing it as well. Granted, I think it was another $150-$200 when I bought the winter wheels/tires to get the TPMS sensors.

Our 2014 Acura RDX would not do that — the car TPMS system would have to be reset (I think it was required that the dealer service perform this service) — so we elected to pass on the second set of wheels & tires and just run A/S on the car.

rccoleman 02-15-2019 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by mvwood (Post 25276969)
- The privacy cover on the sportback rattled like crazy. Had to take it off. The entire setup seems insecure and not designed with any concern for noise.

It can be really noisy if everything isn't clicked in and seated. Make sure that the metal studs are fully seated into the plastic clips on the cover, and that the plastic clips are clicked shut. When I loaded up my trunk with stuff to donate and knocked those parts loose it rattled like hell until I went back there are locked everything down. There have also been some complaints about the removable shelf making noise and it sounds like the dealer can do something to tighten it up.

snagitseven 02-15-2019 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by mvwood (Post 25276969)
- Have only had happen it once so far, but sitting at a red light it apparently thought I was going to be in an accident and "pre-sensed) the seat and seatbelt. Really uncomfortable and annoying but hopefully that was a one-off.

If a car was coming up fast behind you at the light, the presense rear would do exactly as you experienced.

Slides 02-15-2019 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by mvwood (Post 25276969)



- The break pedal clicks. Like a mechanical click on a mouse where plastic gears click against each other. Sometimes it isn't too bad but sometimes there are a whole bunch of little points in the depress range which make it click multiple times on the way down and back up. When moving in slow traffic with the pedal partially depressed it can end up in a sort of reverse a sweet spot where it clicks repeatedly as it trips over the threshold down and up over and over again. Is driving me a bit nuts and hoping it is something wrong rather than some sort of purposeful noise or design flaw.




- Less of an issue now that I'm used to it, but the blind spot monitor is also overly sensitive and when combined with mirrors that do not have the best range of vision, is unfortunate. My last car if the light was on I couldn't go and if it wasn't on I could, and I had confidence in it. This one goes on really early and cars going the same speed several car lengths back can still set it off. Luckily it doesn't beep (although I would have preferred it was accurate and beeped instead of how it works now). That said, you learn its quirks pretty quickly and the adjustment hasn't been terrible.
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Agree. The mirrors are just not good enough for full blind spot visibility and the blind spot monitor cannot be fully trusted on this car. I always have to shoulder check which slows down my lanes changes. Not that big of a deal but worth noting.

garberfc 02-16-2019 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by mvwood (Post 25276969)
- The break pedal clicks. Like a mechanical click on a mouse where plastic gears click against each other. Sometimes it isn't too bad but sometimes there are a whole bunch of little points in the depress range which make it click multiple times on the way down and back up. When moving in slow traffic with the pedal partially depressed it can end up in a sort of reverse a sweet spot where it clicks repeatedly as it trips over the threshold down and up over and over again. Is driving me a bit nuts and hoping it is something wrong rather than some sort of purposeful noise or design flaw.

You definitely need to have this looked at. Mine are smooth and quiet. My only gripe with the brakes is that they tend to grab a bit as I slow to a stop. I need to let off of them a bit..


RedKloud 02-16-2019 07:47 AM

I don’t have any rattling in my cargo area shelf.
The gas tank is on the smaller side.
The brakes are a little grabby and noisy (but no click in the pedal).
And I am not going to say anything about the throttle response :).

Nikon1 02-16-2019 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by garberfc (Post 25277149)
You definitely need to have this looked at. Mine are smooth and quiet. My only gripe with the brakes is that they tend to grab a bit as I slow to a stop. I need to let off of them a bit..


Same with me — the braking characteristics of the Audi are hard to master for a smooth, “jerk-free” complete stop. I’m pretty much there, now, but it was a learning curve for me.

Richr 02-16-2019 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Nikon1 (Post 25277180)



Same with me — the braking characteristics of the Audi are hard to master for a smooth, “jerk-free” complete stop. I’m pretty much there, now, but it was a learning curve for me.

You might try bedding them which requires 3 or 4 runs to 70 mph + and back to almost a full stop with very hard braking. Once done it is important to keep driving without coming to a full stop long enough to let the brakes cool, so make sure you have plenty of room. This should smooth things out.

The G Man 02-16-2019 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Slides (Post 25277110)
Agree. The mirrors are just not good enough for full blind spot visibility and the blind spot monitor cannot be fully trusted on this car. I always have to shoulder check which slows down my lanes changes. Not that big of a deal but worth noting.

the mirrors are small but if adjusted right, it covers the blind spots. The lane change warning also works very well. With the combination of the rear view mirror, side mirrors and blind spot warning, I hardly ever look over my shoulders when changing lane.

Nikon1 02-16-2019 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Richr (Post 25277184)


You might try bedding them which requires 3 or 4 runs to 70 mph + and back to almost a full stop with very hard braking. Once done it is important to keep driving without coming to a full stop long enough to let the brakes cool, so make sure you have plenty of room. This should smooth things out.

Thanks - I'll try that!

MRA5SB 02-16-2019 09:37 AM

Totally agree that the blind spot warning on these cars are way off. It always turns on when there is a good two car length distance. In my infiniti it only comes on when the other car is truly in my blind spot and moving over would cause an accident.

garberfc 02-16-2019 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Nikon1 (Post 25277204)
Thanks - I'll try that!

Please report your experience, and if positive I'll give it a whirl.

18A5SB 02-16-2019 01:58 PM

Plus 1 on the remaining gas indicator. I use the gas tank indicator.

Grabby brakes (i.e shorter pedal travel) compared to the TSX, surprised me at the beginning. Now I am used to it. Moreover, I was taught (pre anti-lock days) to brake hard without locking up at the beginning and slowly releasing and modulating the pressure as you slow down and come to a stop. On this car I have to increase pedal pressure to activate the engine auto stop.

Richr 02-16-2019 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by 18A5SB (Post 25277312)
Plus 1 on the remaining gas indicator. I use the gas tank indicator..

Recently got my first low fuel warning, also showing very low on the gage, stopped for gas and could not put in more than 12 gallons. 🙄

The G Man 02-16-2019 03:53 PM

The S5 is hard to stop smoothly, I think the high performance brakes are a bit grippy. From all the brake dust on my rims, I am guessing they are metallic pads. Add to that the stop and start propensity to shut off the engine before zero mph, the stops are sometimes choppy.

BlackOptic 02-16-2019 04:09 PM

Talking of gripes. One hesitation I have on getting a RS5 SB is HEADROOM. While the stats say the same as my A4, the ‘5’ roofline is lower and i was surprised how low the inside ceiling was. Maybe an inch or two of clearance. I am 6’3”, and Audi’s have always had wonderful legroom and headroom - the headroom has never been an issue in the A4, Q7, all with sunroofs, or my ex TTS. Good thing I am not planning to wear a helmet in this car.

Any 6’-3”+ folks feel claustrophobic?

ArvX147 02-16-2019 07:18 PM

You dont need to bed stock brake pads, all you will be doing by stopping from 70 to zero hard 3-4 times is wearing the **** out of your brakes lol.

ArvX147 02-16-2019 07:21 PM

Also, if you actually know how to adjust your mirrors right there is no problem with these mirrors.

It may not be how you are used to doing it, but its the proper way. All cars should be set as described below and you should get used to driving a car with the mirrors set this way, you will never have a blind spot really.

With your head against the glass you should just be able to see the side of the car in the driver mirror. With your head in the centerline of the car (to the right of drivers position) you should just be able to see the passenger side of the car. Side mirrors are not for looking behind you, they are for looking at the sides.

Slides 02-16-2019 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by ArvX147 (Post 25277417)
Also, if you actually know how to adjust your mirrors right there is no problem with these mirrors.

It may not be how you are used to doing it, but its the proper way. All cars should be set as described below and you should get used to driving a car with the mirrors set this way, you will never have a blind spot really.

With your head against the glass you should just be able to see the side of the car in the driver mirror. With your head in the centerline of the car (to the right of drivers position) you should just be able to see the passenger side of the car. Side mirrors are not for looking behind you, they are for looking at the sides.

Already done that. The side mirrors are just too small and sometimes cars get lost between the rear view mirror and the side mirror.

Richr 02-17-2019 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by ArvX147 (Post 25277415)
You dont need to bed stock brake pads, all you will be doing by stopping from 70 to zero hard 3-4 times is wearing the **** out of your brakes lol.

I am always open to learning new things. Can you refer me to objective evidence that supports your claim? Also, it is unlikely you will wear the "****" out of them with 4 hard stops.

https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/i...Path=6446_6443

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS728US728&q=how+to+bed+brake s+stoptech&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjooomT38LgAhVCn-AKHSXDCWUQ1QIoAHoECAQQAQ&biw=998&bih=397#kpvalbx=1


ArvX147 02-17-2019 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Richr (Post 25277451)
I am always open to learning new things. Can you refer me to objective evidence that supports your claim? Also, it is unlikely you will wear the "****" out of them with 4 hard stops.

https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/i...Path=6446_6443

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS728US728&q=how+to+bed+brake s+stoptech&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjooomT38LgAhVCn-AKHSXDCWUQ1QIoAHoECAQQAQ&biw=998&bih=397#kpvalbx=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zawfu9xTkag

Both of those links are referring to installing new brakes on a car, usually with aftermarket higher performance brake pads that use compounds which require bedding. Stock brakes do not need to be bedded and you will find no reference to it in the users manual.

Aftermarket brakes, new brake pads that are not OEM, yes bed them and do it properly per the pad manufacturers specification (not the way it was described above, there are different procedures for different compounds)

AgMaple 02-17-2019 02:33 PM

Bedding Brakes
 

Originally Posted by garberfc (Post 25277284)
Please report your experience, and if positive I'll give it a whirl.

I did this when I first got the car. The brakes have always been easy to modulate since (and they weren't before I did it).

Richr 02-17-2019 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by AgMaple (Post 25277741)
I did this when I first got the car. The brakes have always been easy to modulate.

+1 and smooth as silk.

ArvX147 02-17-2019 03:38 PM

I didnt bed my brakes and my brakes are super smooth. checkmate, atheists.

Slides 02-17-2019 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by ArvX147 (Post 25277766)
I didnt bed my brakes and my brakes are super smooth. checkmate, atheists.

You actually did, just very slowly and without realizing it. Brakes were too grabby when I first got the car too and slowly became much better plus I got used to it more.

JD15 02-17-2019 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by BlackOptic (Post 25277364)
Talking of gripes. One hesitation I have on getting a RS5 SB is HEADROOM. While the stats say the same as my A4, the ‘5’ roofline is lower and i was surprised how low the inside ceiling was. Maybe an inch or two of clearance. I am 6’3”, and Audi’s have always had wonderful legroom and headroom - the headroom has never been an issue in the A4, Q7, all with sunroofs, or my ex TTS. Good thing I am not planning to wear a helmet in this car.

Any 6’-3”+ folks feel claustrophobic?

I'm 6' and the headroom is perfectly adequate for me, but I have less headroom than expected with the seat on its lowest setting and I feel like I am sitting higher than I did in my old A4. I can imagine it could be a bit tight for those 6'3" and over.

hevnsnt 02-17-2019 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by ArvX147 (Post 25277766)
I didnt bed my brakes and my brakes are super smooth. checkmate, atheists.

lol @ checkmate

Odo Ital 02-17-2019 10:41 PM

I wish the fuel gauge were a normal sliding scale rather than 8 segements. The range estimator is no good so I'd like to be able to know how many miles I've driven at precise marks like the halfway point.

Similar to that, I wish the short-term trip memory didn't erase itself. I like to have the short-term memory track over an entire tank of gas.

Lastly, the fuel efficiency is horrible for congested city driving and averages around 15 in Los Angeles. I believe the reason is that the engine idles at 1,000 RPMs while most 2.0l 4 cylinder engines idle at 800.

Richr 02-18-2019 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by JD15 (Post 25277785)
I'm 6' and the headroom is perfectly adequate for me, but I have less headroom than expected with the seat on its lowest setting and I feel like I am sitting higher than I did in my old A4. I can imagine it could be a bit tight for those 6'3" and over.

I am a mere 5' 10" and mess up my hair every time I get in the car. :)

The G Man 02-18-2019 04:23 AM

The only gripe I have is the lack of a power steering column adjustment with auto tilt up for easy entry and exit, a car in the S5’s price range should have that as standard equipment.

JD15 02-18-2019 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Richr (Post 25277846)
I am a mere 5' 10" and mess up my hair every time I get in the car. :)

You probably have shorter legs and a long torso or big hair. It appears that keeping my hair very short is beneficial for owning this car.

Nikon1 02-18-2019 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by JD15 (Post 25277883)
You probably have shorter legs and a long torso or big hair. It appears that keeping my hair very short is beneficial for owning this car.

JD15 — You have a SportBack, right? It’s been discussed on a couple of threads that the SB has a little less headroom getting in due to the slope of the roof, IIRC.

Richr has a Coupe but may have his seat / seat back adjusted so that it’s difficult to enter / exit his car.

I have to “tuck” a little when getting in my Coupe to avoid the roof line but, as you mentioned, I have a longer torso and shorter legs.

Richr 02-18-2019 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Nikon1 (Post 25277903)


JD15 — You have a SportBack, right? It’s been discussed on a couple of threads that the SB has a little less headroom getting in due to the slope of the roof, IIRC.

Richr has a Coupe but may have his seat / seat back adjusted so that it’s difficult to enter / exit his car.

Yep. If I set the seat for easy access I have to move it forward when I get in.

mvwood 02-18-2019 10:13 AM

One other I forgot about cause it turns off when too cold out - the ASS doesn’t wait for the car to fully stop. Triggers when at 1 or 2 km and bounces the car into a stop. ASS in the last car would wait a few seconds after a complete stop.

Also don’t like that the steering wheel locks when the ASS turns off the engine.

Oh and that the remote key can open the trunk but not close it. Really annoying when I have accidentally opened the trunk trying to lock the car with the key in my pocket and have had to go back to close it.

And if we really want to get into the little things the lock noise is a quiet beep instead of a honk so hard to use it to find my car in a parking lot.

And thanks all for the comments - good range of persepctives and no one is calling me stupid (which I might be) even though I could just be doing some things wrong (which I probably am). Mirrors and blind spot I have adjusted to. Just need to move my head around more to get the full view through the side mirror and learned when to ignore the blind spot monitor, though it does take more time and eyes away from the front for a little longer.

Re the pre-sense, there was no one around front or behind so it was a glitch.

Re the mileage I’m getting 250-300 km a tank in comfort. Shudder to think what it would have been driving aggresively in sport.

-=Hot|Ice=- 02-18-2019 10:41 AM

I said the same thing.

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/aud...942766/page21/


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