Those runnings HANS, 2" shoulder belt or is 3" fine?
 

I just bought a Hans and the only dilemma I have is which belt to buy? I know the Hans is designed to use the 3" belt and "roll over a bit" versus the 2" which mounts flat.

Any draw backs for either set up and what you recommend as a new user.

Roll bar is going in now and the Harness is next.

All this money to go no faster than before. Argh. I still feel better about it though.

I didn't notice any difference with either belt size.
 

Hi John, my car initially had 3" belts which I used for a year with my Hans device. This year, the belts expired, so I had to install new belts. I went with the 2" which are supposed to only be used with a Hans device.

My personal experience is that the 2" belts just seem right when using them with a Hans. They fit perfectly over the shoulder portion of the Hans. However, if someone is driving your car and doesn't have a Hans, there could be a liability issue for you if they wreck because the 2" belts say for use only with a Hans device. When the 3" belts are used with a Hans, the fit over the Hans doesn't seem right, although I'm sure its safe.

I personally am happy I went with the 2" belts for use with my Hans device. My brother drove my car without a Hans device and using the 2" belts, and I wasn't concerned. The person who sold me the 2" belts said the 2" belts could be used with or without a Hans device, but the instructions for the 2" belts said to use only with a Hans device.

Both are fine. Keep in mind if you get 2", it can't be used without a HANS.

That's the mixed message: 2" is okay w/o Hans but none of documentation backs it up.

Im buying new harnesses shortly... will be 3" for HANS.
 

Same as Ive been using all along. What kind of harnesses you getting? Im looking at Schroth Hybrid3s.

I've been using 3"...
 

1 of my final checks before going out on track, is to make sure the shoulder harness rides over the HANS correctly... Just a forced hobbit of being used to check lists.

What kinda tether HANS model did you get? slider? quick release? or standard? This yr I finally upgraded to the slider (which requires the wider backing plate for the helmet anchors). Before that, my head rotation was a bit limited... on sharper corners, I would turn my head and reach the HANS head-turning limit and had to move my eye balls to see further around. Sounds crazy I know, but turns out I drive w/ my eye balls centered and rotate my head instead! LoL!

I now have an extra set of wide-sized anchor backing plates (slider upgrade came w/ a set. My helmet already have the wide style anchor plates), and (non-sliding) quick release tether that I don't need anymore. Let me know if you could use them.

Went with slider tether.

Schroth Hybrid3s or Sparco (OG Racing clearance version). Not sure which yet.

Thanks Drew. A lot of shops are pushing 2" saying not problem w/o tHans hough.

Mine are 3" and would just recommend that as well. Have the quick release tethers too.
 

Still limited side to side viewing (only an issue in the paddock) but very easy to get the HANS on and off.

did Jim tell you about the discount on HANS i found?

Yep. Thanks.

I was very intrigued by the quick release. A slider tether with QR is about to be released..

?? you can't just say that and walk away ;)
 

email me if you must :)

what, are you feeling like your brother is one-upping you now?
 

:-P

The only thing that I've 'read' about the 2" vs 3" is that the 2" will lay nicer on the device vs the 3" which will ride up on the edges a little bit. not sure how detrimental that is.

LMAO!

He better say the OG Racing ones, since those are the ones he made me buy. haha

That would be the best of both worlds then. I would like the extra side to side movement but won't
 

give up the quick release.

Since I don't have the quick release steering wheel, I can't get into the car with helmet and hans on without banging into the car/cage. The quick release hans is very easy to take and put back on.

he's going to one-up you Jim... sibling rivalry at its best!

Some manufacturer's also offer 3" belts that are stitched to 2" in the HANS area..
 

I know Teamtech does that, I'm sure others do too...

<i>"H 3-2-3 HARNESS FOR YOKE
TYPE HEAD &amp; NECK
RESTRAINTS
This harness revision can be done to our
new or re-webbed unpadded SFI
harnesses. The harness is still classified
as a 3" harness, but contours down to a
2" harness by folding and sewing the
inside and outside edges where it will
come in contact with the HANS® yoke.
Then as it reaches the top of the shoulder
it returns to a 3" harness. It is specially
designed to hold down the HANS yoke
with or without the sternum strap. The
TEAMTECH® H 3-2-3 Harness revision
still complies with the 3" ruling for the
fact that when the HANS is not being
used by the wearer 3" webbing still is in
contact with the driver after simple
webbing adjustments. This revision still
maintains the strength of a 3" harness."</i><ul><li><a href="http://www.teamtechmotorsports.com/08_Catalog.pdf">Page 9 of the PDF...</a></li></ul>

here you go
 

Hans Sport Model with sliding tethers:
- Retail - $695
- Group Buy Price - $660

These prices including helmet anchors and instructions and tool for installation on helmet. Installation of anchors on helmet by Northstar is $20.

The Extra model has been discontinued and is no longer available.

This Group Buy pricing is for Audi and Lotus Clubs and is
valid thru April 30, 2009. If we need to ship the helmet (if we do the post install) and/or the HANS device there will be a $15 charge for standard UPS Ground shipping.

John's contact info to place the purchase is:
John Ruther
Northstar Motorsports
28144 W. Industrial Avenue, Suite 108
Barrington, IL 60010
Orders: 800-356-2080
Tech: 847-304-5515
Fax: 847-304-5615
john@northstarmotorsports.com
(Link: www.northstarmotorsports.com
)www.northstarmotorsports.com

ah cool.... now where did I put my ski mask...
 

cuz I need to visit the bank :-P

unforutunately, $695 is the going price for HANS devices.

Here is what OGRacing's prices are:
 

Seems the Extra Series that I have is about $200 cheaper than I paid. :/<ul><li><a href="http://www.ogracing.com/catalog/1-Driver/23-Hans-Devices">cleek</a></li></ul>

look like sport series for me.

Its all you will need for now. You might want to upgrade to a lighter one when you get into racing.

LOL. Heavier car w/horrid front suspension = tough to one up an E36

Supposedly, February release. $50.

WTF? the price goes up $100 per size? That seem strange to anyone else?

buy a 2nd for me and I'll pay you back over time ;)

bah, details details...
 

just let hte air out of his tires when he's not looking! :-P





totally kidding, I swear. At least just steal his keys and make him sit there searching for them... that'd be funny enough :)

LOL, since we almost lost my keys at NJMP, I now take a second set of keys with me :)
 

A certain asian who sells brakes almost lost my keys at NJMP. Car was just sitting there in the paddock. I think he left them in someone else's car by mistake or something. So now, I take a second set of keys and leave them in the truck. :)

Sure, can I charge usurious rates of interest? Hehe

Did you really have to use the word 'usurious'? I mean, really :-P
 

most would say 'ridiculous' or the like... you have a thesaurus sitting infront of you or seomthing? :-P

that being said, feel free to charge whatever interest. I'll just call up the pres and get it wiped out when I'm not able to pay for it and get it for free instead :-P

lol... priceless.
 

John, make sure to hide the 2nd set of keys too :-P

Usurious was the first word that popped in to my mind! Paging APK for backup...
 

Sorry, no thesaurus here. Well, I do have one available online, but I didn't use it. LOL

Oh, you want a bailout from the Messiah, eh? Hahahahah.

&lt;changes code to keypad on truck's driver's door&gt;

that's one of the best things about fords
 

if only I could remember the code for my wife's suv.

There's a sticker somewhere with the code
 

They put the sticker in different places for each vehicle. On my truck, it's affixed to the back of the seatback of the rear seat, which is permanent, and doesn't come out without undoing bolts and stuff.

Or alternatively, you can VAG it for the code.

The Ford truck forums will have the location and you can just look for the sticker.

They are trying to move inventory. Medium/Large is most popular. Small isn't hence the price diff.