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spijun 02-10-2018 01:01 PM

Technical specifications - mistake
 
An incredible mistake on audiusa.com for technical specifications

Audi Q5/SQ5 Cargo volume 26.8 cu-ft (759 L) . In the rest of the world, it's 550 liters = 19.42 cu-ft

Audi Q7 Cargo volume 37,5 cu-ft ( 1062L) In the rest of the world, it's 890 liters = 31.4 cu-ft

I really do not understand how Audi USA could make such a mistake, or maybe the Audi USA has other standards for measures

https://s13.postimg.org/65egsu3g7/Screen_Shot032.jpg




https://s13.postimg.org/pu0lh3do7/Screen_Shot033.jpg

ex-quattro PETE 02-10-2018 02:10 PM

Is it possible that for the US they are counting the entire volume behind the rear seats and for rest of world they are only counting the volume below the rear shelf?

spijun 02-10-2018 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by ex-quattro PETE (Post 25108803)
Is it possible that for the US they are counting the entire volume behind the rear seats and for rest of world they are only counting the volume below the rear shelf?

Rear seat backup UP / FOLDED
Standards are given by the manufacturer and not by anyone to decide what and how to measure it


https://s13.postimg.org/4qv9n4dwn/Screen_Shot034.jpg

ex-quattro PETE 02-10-2018 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by spijun (Post 25108807)
<br /><br />NO<br />Rear seat backup <strong>UP / FOLDED </strong><br /><br />Standards are given by the manufacturer and not by anyone to decide what and how to measure it<br /><img src="https://s13.postimg.org/4qv9n4dwn/Screen_Shot034.jpg"/>

That screenshot does not answer the question I asked.


Standards are given by the manufacturer and not by anyone to decide what and how to measure it
So the manufacturer can decide how to report the cargo volume in each country, depending on what's customary in each country, no?

Did you compare the same data for other manufacturers? How does the cargo volume of BMW X5 in the US compare to the one in Europe, for example?

spijun 02-10-2018 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by ex-quattro PETE (Post 25108810)
That screenshot does not answer the question I asked.


So the manufacturer can decide how to report the cargo volume in each country.

Did you compare the same data for other manufacturers? How does the cargo volume of BMW X5 in the US compare to the one in Europe, for example?

For Q3, this is exactly 16.7 cu-ft = 460 liters

A4 on the US market has a smaller cargo volume:
13 cu-ft ( 368 lit ) in EU 480 lit ( 17 cu-ft ) ???????

ex-quattro PETE 02-10-2018 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by spijun (Post 25108813)
For Q3, this is exactly 16.7 cu-ft = 460 liters

Does spare wheel have anything to do with it?

I am seeing mentions that Q3 cargo volume is 420 liters, but then it says:

It is possible to increase boot space to 460 litres by specifying the no-cost, optional tyre mobility kit, which replaces the space-saver spare wheel.
https://www.whatcar.com/audi/q3/esta...-practicality/

spijun 02-10-2018 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by ex-quattro PETE (Post 25108817)
Does spare wheel have anything to do with it?

I am seeing mentions that Q3 cargo volume is 420 liters, but then it says:


https://www.whatcar.com/audi/q3/esta...-practicality/

The luggage compartment does not count what is underneath the floor

How do you explain the difference of 209 liters for Q5?

Relevant information is provided by the car producer and the representative, and not what the journalists write

ex-quattro PETE 02-10-2018 03:19 PM

You still have not answered my question: how is cargo volume measured: is it just the space below the rear shelf or also above the shelf? And is it measured the same way on US market vs. Europe?

spijun 02-10-2018 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by ex-quattro PETE (Post 25108828)
You still have not answered my question: how is cargo volume measured: is it just the space below the rear shelf or also above the shelf? And is it measured the same way on US market vs. Europe?

For details, ask Audi Ingolstadt and Audi USA, I did not measure it, but only transferred what is wrote on web site

I think there is an international standard for measurement: space below the rear shelf

Think about it: how the same volume Q3 ( EU / USA ) and on A3 Sportback same in USA /EU 13,6 cu-ft / 385 lit but is different in Q5 and Q7 and how is it possible that in A4 the smaller volume in USA than in the rest of the world and in A6 RoW standard is 530 lit in USA version 14.1 cu-ft liter ( 400 lit ) ???????
Obviously Audi USA has different standards for each model

BYE-BYE

ex-quattro PETE 02-11-2018 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by spijun (Post 25108952)
I think there is an international standard for measurement: space below the rear shelf

Yeah, not in the US.
In the US, there is something called SAE J1100 standard that is supposed to be used for providing cargo volume and vehicle dimensions, but apparently there are multiple versions of it, and some of it is left up to vehicle manufacturer's interpretation - and you can be sure they're going to use it to their utmost advantage. And that's just in the US. I'm sure EU has its own standards that possibly differ from US.

https://www.cars.com/articles/cargo-...1420696442243/
https://www.cars.com/articles/2014/0...tch-the-truth/



The body style can also introduce its own variances. J1100 calls for cargo volume in a hatchback to extend to the top of the seatback but to the ceiling in a wagon or "multi-purpose vehicle," Honda added. J1100 stipulates this, but that makes comparisons for consumers between hatchbacks and other body styles another case of apples and oranges.
So yeah, it's a big clusterf***.


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