15,000 miles: Front brakes DONE?
So my 2017 Q7 brakes were pulsating bad and getting worse. So I brought it in for service oil change and rotate tires and check brakes. The Service Tech calls me and tells me the front pads and rotors are DONE! Really 15,000 miles? The pulsating started about 10,000 miles and got worse. I asked to speak with the service manger and when I spoke to her she tried to say it was because I most drive with 2 feet. Ahh no I’ve been driving for over 40 years and know how to drive. She then asks do i drive fast? Huh? Yeah I do. But the rotors still should not be shot after 15K. I told her I currently also own a 2014 Porsche 911 that I thrash around way worse than the Q and the brakes are fine. I get the number of Audi NA. They were better and more accommodating. They agreed to Comp the rotors for “Audi good will”. I told him this is my 6th Audi and my wife’s current A5 Cab. NEVER had I had such poor quality brakes on a vehicle. Don’t get me wrong I love everything about the Q except the brakes. I know its a heavy vehicle but really 15K on rotors just doesn’t seem right. If they go in another 15k I think I will go aftermarket. |
Thanks for the heads up.
What is your guesstimate for highway/city driving? When did you purchase 2016? |
Originally Posted by GBMILTON
(Post 25270428)
Thanks for the heads up.
What is your guesstimate for highway/city driving? When did you purchase 2016? |
Only 4k on my 2018, but I had 4 previous gen Q7s - Front rotors and pads went 20k (mostly city driving and in San Francisco to boot) and some towing - I learned to do my own brakes it happened so often.
The earlier gen Q7s were better - but Audi got a lot of complaints about brake noise and started using softer metals and pads for the brakes - I was shocked in 2014 with how quickly it burned-up brakes. Sound like they are sticking with that formula for the MK II. I went with stop tech on my MK I Q7, far better and way more miles - not sure what our 2018 will do and when it'll need brakes, but I will most likely not be spending $2k on more OEMs that burn-up in 15-20k. |
Originally Posted by arU4ic
(Post 25271175)
Only 4k on my 2018, but I had 4 previous gen Q7s - Front rotors and pads went 20k (mostly city driving and in San Francisco to boot) and some towing - I learned to do my own brakes it happened so often.
The earlier gen Q7s were better - but Audi got a lot of complaints about brake noise and started using softer metals and pads for the brakes - I was shocked in 2014 with how quickly it burned-up brakes. Sound like they are sticking with that formula for the MK II. I went with stop tech on my MK I Q7, far better and way more miles - not sure what our 2018 will do and when it'll need brakes, but I will most likely not be spending $2k on more OEMs that burn-up in 15-20k. |
I have no idea if this relates to you, but tell your dealer that you would like the front brakes to be covered under TSB 2050735/3 or TSB is 2050735/1. A lot of people have had issues with the front pads and Audi ended up replacing them under warranty using that TSB.
The link below will provide a lot more reading in regards to the TSB. Good Luck. https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q7-...sight-2934072/ |
Our 2017 Q7 has about 30k miles and the front brakes are shot. I do not want to put the same crappy OEM pads and rotors on again, but I am having trouble finding any aftermarket options. Anyone know of a good aftermarket option like, StopTech, Brembo, etc.?
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Originally Posted by mackerman22
(Post 25272917)
Our 2017 Q7 has about 30k miles and the front brakes are shot. I do not want to put the same crappy OEM pads and rotors on again, but I am having trouble finding any aftermarket options. Anyone know of a good aftermarket option like, StopTech, Brembo, etc.?
https://www.adamsrotors.com/about-us.html |
Originally Posted by Guzzgreg
(Post 25270448)
Don’t know. Purchased 01/2017. I do mostly highway driving and very little stop and go. And i don’t Use it much in the summer so your guess is as good as mine. Also, I'm curious how you're sure you need new rotors. Most rotors should outlast 2 sets of pads. They last even longer with softer pads. |
Originally Posted by RyanCC
(Post 25273598)
Driving pattern does make HUGE difference in brake life. So you don't know what percentage of highway/local driving? If you use brake a lot, 15K miles is not that bad.
Also, I'm curious how you're sure you need new rotors. Most rotors should outlast 2 sets of pads. They last even longer with softer pads. REread post #3 for driving habits. |
Originally Posted by Guzzgreg
(Post 25273717)
They showed me my rotors and Min. Specs for replacing rotors and pads. Mine were shot. Also they weigh the rotors to determine if there is enough material still there to just replace the pads. Believe me this is NOT my first rodeo Ive been doing this a long time. I did not just take their word for it. Pads were visibly shot. I get that but still don’t think the rotors should have gone in 15K. You are correct that you should get 2 sets of pads for 1 set of rotors. BUT car manufacturers are using increasingly softer rotors and harder pads. I guess to stop much of the brake squeal people complain about. REread post #3 for driving habits. |
adaptive cruise/ congestion assist
Yeah they asked me that, I NEVER use it dont like it. |
Originally Posted by Guzzgreg
(Post 25273717)
BUT car manufacturers are using increasingly softer rotors and harder pads. I guess to stop much of the brake squeal people complain about. REread post #3 for driving habits. How much did your dealer quote you for a full job - 2 axles pads & rotors? |
They quoted me $1601.20 Pads and rotors front and $1111.18 if I wanted to do the rear at the same time. |
Originally Posted by mhoran89
(Post 25273398)
Give Adam a call at Adam's Rotors. He is the best. No matter what you have he can make them for you. They will be better quality than OEM.
https://www.adamsrotors.com/about-us.html i wouldn’t be surprised if he arrogant self shows up to try to defend the countless posts about his attitude, rotors and service. I had my own discussion with him about 10 yrs ago and knew fairly quickly his personality type. Luckily I never bought his product but there are plenty of posts about them. |
Originally Posted by Guzzgreg
(Post 25274057)
They quoted me $1601.20 Pads and rotors front and $1111.18 if I wanted to do the rear at the same time. |
Originally Posted by RyanCC
(Post 25274153)
No way. Buy your own parts have a local shop work for you. Or even go to a specialized brake shop will be a lot cheaper, like Brake Plus if you have one around.
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Originally Posted by RyanCC
(Post 25274153)
No way. Buy your own parts have a local shop work for you. Or even go to a specialized brake shop will be a lot cheaper, like Brake Plus if you have one around.
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OK so I have been searching the net trying to find front rotors that are better or if they are only going to last 15K cheaper for the futures,and there seems to be little to nothing available. Plenty of rear options not so for front. Anybody? |
I don't know what happened to your pads but here are pads used for 56,000 KM. The thickness of new pad starts at 10 mm and I almost barely use them. The only reason that I got them replaced is the squeezing noise while applying brakes.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.aud...71e316bd07.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.aud...d99a1a420d.jpg |
Originally Posted by Guzzgreg
(Post 25275212)
OK so I have been searching the net trying to find front rotors that are better or if they are only going to last 15K cheaper for the futures,and there seems to be little to nothing available. Plenty of rear options not so for front. Anybody? I like these: https://www.carid.com/stoptech/premium-vented-rear-brake-rotor-mpn-125-33137cry.html?singleid=1238963688&url=104061882 I used these once too: https://www.carid.com/powerstop/evolution-performance-drilled-and-slotted-vented-1-piece-rear-brake-rotors-mpn-ebr1209xpr.html?singleid=225264478&url=104061882 |
Originally Posted by arU4ic
(Post 25275377)
I haven't bought for my 2018, but for my 2014 I liked these below (which are for the MKII);
I like these: https://www.carid.com/stoptech/premi...&url=104061882 I used these once too: https://www.carid.com/powerstop/evol...&url=104061882 Still again those are only REAR rotors. Not front. |
Originally Posted by Guzzgreg
(Post 25275399)
Still again those are only REAR rotors. Not front. https://www.apcautotech.com/automotive-and-light-truck-search?year=2017&make=73&model=2854&category=3-315%2C141 Let us know how much they cost, I'm sure most are curious. |
Centric makes good rotors, I highly recommend them. Look for coated ones versus non-coated.
How do I determine if I have the 350mm or 375mm front rotors? Same for 350mm vs 330mm rears? Any trick without taking a wheel off and measuring? Is it as simple as 2.0T vs 3.0T motor / trim level? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. |
Originally Posted by Guzzgreg
(Post 25270407)
So my 2017 Q7 brakes were pulsating bad and getting worse. So I brought it in for service oil change and rotate tires and check brakes. The Service Tech calls me and tells me the front pads and rotors are DONE! Really 15,000 miles? The pulsating started about 10,000 miles and got worse. I asked to speak with the service manger and when I spoke to her she tried to say it was because I most drive with 2 feet. Ahh no I’ve been driving for over 40 years and know how to drive. She then asks do i drive fast? Huh? Yeah I do. But the rotors still should not be shot after 15K. I told her I currently also own a 2014 Porsche 911 that I thrash around way worse than the Q and the brakes are fine. I get the number of Audi NA. They were better and more accommodating. They agreed to Comp the rotors for “Audi good will”. I told him this is my 6th Audi and my wife’s current A5 Cab. NEVER had I had such poor quality brakes on a vehicle. Don’t get me wrong I love everything about the Q except the brakes. I know its a heavy vehicle but really 15K on rotors just doesn’t seem right. If they go in another 15k I think I will go aftermarket. |
Originally Posted by mhoran89
(Post 25275459)
Centric makes good rotors, I highly recommend them. Look for coated ones versus non-coated.
How do I determine if I have the 350mm or 375mm front rotors? Same for 350mm vs 330mm rears? Any trick without taking a wheel off and measuring? Is it as simple as 2.0T vs 3.0T motor / trim level? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. |
They are replacing brakes on Q7s, check with your dealer...
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Originally Posted by netrom17
(Post 25273763)
FWIW, I find that driving a lot with adaptive cruise/ congestion assist on (which I mostly do) leads to way more and harder braking, and that often somewhat unnecessary, compared to normal driving without these assists. For instance, I frequently notice automatic breaking when I’d just have taken the foot of the throttle and let the car coast. That can’t possibly help longevity of our brakes. I canceled cruise, and it immediately shifted to 6th (throughout all of this, my foot has been off the gas). This is the right way to hold speed downhill! I turned on cruise again, and it shifted to 8th followed by application of the brakes to hold the speed. That’s just stupidly wearing the brake pads. I have used OBD eleven to change some setting so the dashboard shows S1-S8 or D1-D8 rather than just S or D. It's like M1 - M8 that display when in manual model or after using paddle shifters. This is how I know what gear the transmission was in and what gear it shifted to as I engaged and disengaged cruise. I disengaged cruise, and the transmission immediately shifted to 6th. That's good, but if it’s smart enough to hold |
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