Anyone see this link? Pretty interesting to see. It's clear not all downpipes are the same.....
 

When I saw the pricing between AWE's and this "well engineered" competitor's pipes, my mind was made up. I guess the "engineers" never learned anything about exhaust design.<ul><li><a href="http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/info/content_window.cfm?content=5">Downpipe Comparison pics</a></li></ul>

I think some burner from high School metal shop made the "A".

So who is "Competitor A?"

I wonder who makes the "A"

Ahh, but lets not forget one important fact - the outlets of our turbos are
 

the bottlenecks! If you really want to gain some performance, you're going to need to port your exhaust side of the turbo... I would be willing to bet, that removing the pre-cats, and relocating the O2 sensor in stock downpipes, yield similar, if not BETTER performance results than a larger pipe. Ideally, you wan't the piping to be the size of the outlet, and from there on, it would taper larger towards the end of the system!

the picture's alt tag will reveal all.. hehe

you are right!
 

the funny thing, there is no image available on their website

Competitor "A"'s DP looks like "P". What "R" they thinking?

So Competitor A's minimum restriction is only 81% as big as stock. Ouch.
 

No APR downpipes for me. I'll stick with my "upgraded" stock ones with a 23% larger minimum cross sectional area, thank you.

THey make it pretty obvious that it is awe vs apr..just hold your mouse over the picture.