MMI Software and Map Updates
 

Hi Folks,

I purchased a 2010 Q5 and quickly realized that the MMI SW and map database are now down-rev. I gleamed the following from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi_Media_Interface

MMI 3G+ Software versions:
Software Version: Details
HNav_US_K0110_1_D1: North-America
HNav_US_P0110_D1: Shipped with 2010 Q5 Models for North-American market
HNav_US_P0114_D1: North-America
HNav_US_P0118_D1: North-America - Factory installed, fixes issue with punctuations in street names

MMI 3G+ Navigation Database Versions:
Nav. Database Version: Details
8R0-060-884-A NAR 5.2.3: North-America
8R0-060-884-F NAR 5.3.4: Shipped with 2010 Q5 Models for North-American market
8R0-060-884-P NAR 5.4.7: North-America
8R0-060-884-AD NAR 5.5.5: North-America - Factory installed, fixes issue with punctuations in street names
8R0-060-884-AL NAR 5.5.6: North-America 2011/2012

I have the version in bold.

Is there any benefit to upgrading the software? Is it even possible? Could there by any features or improvements I may be missing out on?

Same question regarding the maps... My dealer quoted me ~$200 to upgrade the map database. Yikes! Is that the only option? Can maps be hacked or downloaded from other sources? Are the newer maps noticeably better than the old ones?

Any guidance or education would be appreciated.

Regards,
Scott

Firmware for MMI update is free - when you buy a new map

Do not buy on the internet because it's a waste of money. You must go to the Audi dealer to activate map which is on-line

I think no one has hacked the system for navigation

Including Audi, right ?!? :):)
one map update in 4 years :)

Of course including Audi :)
I really don't know why the problem is on the U.S. market.:mad:
In Europe was three upgrades :eek:

Do you happen to know what SW/map combination is currently available in the US? Has anyone on the forum actually upgraded in this way? I'd be interested in hearing their feedback - particularly on the SW upgrade. I can imagine what better maps would feel like. However, are there any new enhancements, features, or bug fixes included in the SW update? For example, are my radio presets any easier to get to? Can I say "Presets" to avoid navigating through menus? Is the media "Mix" setting sticky now? Are the maps noticeably better? In other words... Would I get anything noticeable for the $200 upgrade?

Thanks,
Scott

Honestly when we had ours done I didn't notice any changes -
and had to go looking for something that showed me there was actually a change:)

I have nav in both cars and actually still use my lifetime traffic and map updated Garmin's....

Wow... that says a lot!

JohnBoyToo, how long ago did you do this upgrade? Can you check your version info screen and let me know what SW and map versions you ended up with?

Thanks in advance!
Scott

Wow, has it been 4 months ago :)

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/sho...&postcount=344

Thanks again!

What about the SW version? Did you end up with HNav_US_P0118_D1?

Cheers,
Scott

I realize this is an old thread, but wondering if anyone did manage to update their maps/firmware for pre 2013 Q5's? I have a 2011, is it possible to get the latest maps?

Yes is possible, you must visit dealers to upgrade software and maps

8R0-060-884-BD NAR 6.8.2 North-America version 2013/2014
8R0-060-884-BL NAR 6.9.2 North-America LAST VERSION 2014

And be prepared to give your credit card a workout. U.S. Dealers appear to be charging $300-$400 to do the map updates.

Thanks guys for the feedback - Are,there any significant updates in the software? Maps alone doesn't seem worth it at that price esp. since I've a garmin with lifetime maps/traffi from my previous car.

AFAIK, the map updates only refresh the base map with road changes, etc. sourced from NavTeq and the MMI internal POIs (not the Audi Connect Google online search POIs which are separate and dynamic). For the ridiculous price charged, I'm going to wait at least three years from purchase before updating, especially since I regularly and mostly use Google search for POIs which are far more up to date anyway. Updated roads will have to wait.

This is just plain sad considering my $300 Garmin has free lifetime updates and displays far more useful data. Not sure why the manufacturers continue to gouge people over nav maps and Audi isn't the only one. A nav disk for my TL was about $125 last time I checked.

I agree I have the Garmin as well with LMT. However, I did notice that Audi's maps seem to cover Hawaii, Mexico, Canada, and a few other places. I wonder if it's partially (not completely since it's significantly more ) more expensive because they have to license more map data? My Garmin covers US and Canada only. My BMW doesn't have Mexico and is about 200-300 for the update discs. At least there you don't need to get the dealer to do it.

What's more frustrating/galling is that the majority of the cost is labor for the dealer to install the update, which is now a requirement for Nav Plus equipped models. The tech doesn't have to sit in the car for the full three hours or so to update the maps, but a service bay is occupied, ergo the hourly charges. This is one area that Audi (and other manf) need to change the update model to reflect something the PND manfs. have been doing for several years. My guess is Audi feels the consumer is not capable of doing their own updates or that they will mess something up. Or, they have decided to protect the dealers' service dept. revenue. Whatever the reason, I feel it's time for Audi to reconsider the map update method in the interest of customer service.

When I asked in November 2013, the dealership said that map version 6.8.2 was the most current one. Does anyone know when 8R0-060-884-BL NAR 6.9.2 North-America LAST VERSION 2014 (per spijun) became available at US dealerships?

What does "LAST VERSION" mean? Does it mean that there won't ever be 2015+ maps?

This is the last version of which is available.
Maps 2015 will be available next year in January-March

This whole matter is ridiculous
 

I'm in the process of negotiating the purchase l of a Q5 Tdi Technik. In Canada that represents a 60k purchase. I've explained to my salesman that either they agree to include the nav update (2.5 years out off date) in the sale or I walk. This will be my 3rd Audi .At this price point and particularly given the Nav price of $3200 We shouldn't expect anything less. Audi are on a high right now but they got here because of us.They better not forget that.There are increasingly interesting alternatives !

I have NAR 6.10.2 in my MY15.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.aud...4b509c40cf.jpg

I think it's a transitional version 2014/2015, that exists every year (2011/2012, 2012/2013, 2013/2014 )


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.aud...b9517b1f03.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.aud...a5e5577201.jpg

Where do you access the screen on the MMS to tell me what version I have? So if the estimate that it might cost $350-400 for an update every two years the $15 per month for audi connect and google earth seems like a good deal for more accurate maps?

For software versions MMI 3G with HDD:
- Press the Setup button
- Press the top right button corresponding to the Settings option
- Navigate to the option Version
- You should see a screen which are displayed both version and Nav Software. database version

For 3G+ is a little different as it is setup button, find in Menu / Info

Menu, Setup MMI, Version information

Audi Connect with Google Earth overlay (which is not a map) provides dynamically updated POIs but the base map is internal and is not updated unless done at the dealer. If a Google online destination is provided on a new street not included on the base map, while you will see a photo representation of the location in the Google Earth overlay, you will not be able to navigate to the address as it won't exist in the nav database.

@snagitseven. Thanks! So clearly the updates are essential. Is it true that updates cost $300?

Map updates from any dealer, any car line, are ridiculously high because they have the monopoly and can get away with it.

A Garmin or Magellan with lifetime maps usually has 3-4 updates per year and costs $35-50 more than a similar unit without the lifetime updates. So it is certainly possible to offer updates more often, and at a much lower price. All the rest is simply gouging because the maps come from the same sources and the car makers certainly can negotiate volume deals.

I'd like a built-in nav, but for $1800? less? you can buy a top of the line Garmin or Magellan or a nice tablet with cellular and live maps instead. In some places, the updates really don't matter. Many places aren't building new roads. In some others like DC and Florida, construction is ongoing and updates every quarter are important. Updates every other year? Would be worthless. Well, actually in DC I've seen ALL the nav systems say "Hey, you got us here, you get us out of here!"

I agree that the built in nav systems are nothing buy an additional money maker for the dealer. I've had a couple of different garmin for years and they work well, include lifetime free updates, and one of mine includes lane change, traffic, and even the send to garmin feature. Totally disappointing that the Audi MMI nav which works well with google earth, send to car, and even traffic is easily outdated and costs so much to update.

The best feature to me is using the audi connect app and "send to car" since its so easy and efficient. The google earth overlay is nice and the traffic alert and flow works well. I actually like the MMI a lot more than I would expect but still am concerned with the need to update for a high amount in the future.

I'm lucky that where I live in Santa Cruz, CA we don't have any land for growth or changes so it is unlikely I'll have issues in town. However, the road trips are another story as clearly this is when the nav comes to play and is useful!

The Q5 is made for road trips!

When did you get your Q5 with that version on it?? Fairly recently? Or did you have it installed by the dealer?

2012 Q5 Premium Plus
 

I have a 2012 Audi Q5 Premium Plus and would like to update the maps for my navigation system. Anyone know how I can do that......????

Where can I download the latest MMI updates for the Audi SQ5 2014?

Based in South Africa so will have to go and check with the dealer in any case. Just though the maps etc. were available somewhere for me to do the firmware / maps upgrade myself.
Thanks for the reply.

MMI 3G & 3G+ High Navi DVD Update $285 for my 14 SQ5

shokhead that's pretty damn reasonable.How did you swing that one ?

I just asked what it would cost.