Q7 vs Q8
 

Ordered a '19 Q7 w/msrp of about $83k...I see a Q8 ordered the same way is only 8k more...any reason I shouldn't go for an 8?
What makes the 7/8 better?

I just read the 8 has significantly more torque than the 7...hmmm.

I believe the Q8 gives you the full autonomous driving as well (as well as touchscreens).

For MY19, the Q8 certainly has the advanced technology. I guess it all boils down to how much you need the cargo/room capabilities of the Q7.

The Q8 will be more fun to drive. So if you want a driver's SUV and the latest tech, the Q8 wins. If you want the better bang for the buck and the utility of a bigger SUV, the Q7 wins. Only you can make that call.

Personally, I would have a hard time right now buying an $80K+ Q7 considering the MY20 facelift.

Will also be interesting to see how the lease-offers on the Q8 will be compared to the Q7.

Agree but I need to replace my 17 soon and facelifts are generally minor; plus I ordered the new 22's (first time available here) which should help. I don't like the frameless windows on the Q8 and prefer the retro buttons/switches on the q7 vs the giant touch screen. I am a cash buyer and know the q8 will hold its value better than the 7 for the first few years especially with a facelift so near. Maybe when my q7 comes in I'll switch it for an 8? sigh...

just read our beloved supercharged 3.0 is replaced with a turbo engine (hence the extra trq), not so sure I'd like giving up the instant response of the supercharged one. hmm, the plot thickens,

If you like the current MMI layout better, that's a different story.

Plus, in regards to pricing, I would not be so sure if you could get the same discount on the Q8 as currently available on the Q7 which would add to the difference in price.

I have to say though that the Q8 is a positive surprise in regards to pricing. Unless you compare basic models, the price difference isn't too bad. I know that my next ride will be slightly cheaper than my current Q7 and a nicely equipped Q8 which is lacking a few options I have right now (premium B&O, Luxury Package and Nightvision) but also adds some (new tech, leather dash, 21" wheels, painted brake calipers) is already $7K less than my current Q7. Equally equipped, it's almost a wash.

That makes me optimistic for the MY20 Q7.

Yes, indeed. I was told $100k+, with that said it makes the Q8 tempting. When will they be here?

Q8 has the more powerful engine. I think the turbo is going to be more fun to drive than our SC.

I just don't like the looks of the Q8 so no remorse from me for choosing the 7 over waiting for 8 last winter.

Those will be poor for the initial release. All manufacturers offer lease/finance rates below prime when they have a lot of margin to spare, and they have a surplus of vehicles they need to move. With the Q8 being new, and you have to pre-order, rates will most likely be high (6-8%).

If performance and style are what you want and dont need 7 seats, Q8 wins hands down.

FWIW...

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[edit: updated with Mk1 and Mk 2 Q7]

Could you add 2016+ MKII Q7 to the comparison instead of the previous gen?

Updated ^^

Also... Don't we all reach for buttons/knobs/switches without having to take our eyes off the road? I worry that we will be distracted in moving eyes off the road to do basic functions like turn up the volume, zoom in on a map, fast forward past a song, etc. Yes, I realize some of these functions are on the steering wheel... but, a sea of touch screens worry me some.

+1

Slower depreciation is a benefit no matter what kind of buyer you are. Whether you pay cash or take an 8-year loan, a higher resale value is equally beneficial.

Indeed, but it's more beneficial to the cash buyer since the expenditure is much greater and all up front. Geez, it seems like the 8 may be the way for me to go...really still luv the 7 though.
Do you/anyone know when the Q8 will be in US showrooms?

It's hard to say until we get to see/ drive the Q8. With the Q7 you get the supercharged engine which I love. The turbo 3.0t is laggier down low in comparison (at least in its S model applications) but it's hard to say until we drive the Q8. The Q8 will obviously benefit from having the newest technology available and the new touchscreen setup is fantastic and easy to use, although I have not used it while driving.

When will we see the 8's in the showrooms here and how much is the 22 option when ordering B/O? Price was na when I ordered. Thanks.

The only way to get black optic on the Q8 is the year one package which already includes 22" wheels. No idea when the cars will arrive though.

No. It makes no difference. Money is fungible. This is the same fallacy that makes people think they did better on their house if they had more equity when they sold it. If you buy a car for $80k and sell it for $50k, you lost $30k to depreciation. That value doesn't change whether you owe $60k or $0 at the time of sale.

The only difference between the financial position in real dollars of the person who paid cash vs. financed--after the vehicle has been resold--is the spread between the rate of inflation and the interest rate on the loan during the holding period. With the exception of 0% loans, this relatively small gap is almost always in favor of the cash buyer. But the vehicle's depreciation is a constant, not a variable, in that equation.

I have an 18 Q7 Prestige. I just spent a week with a loaded Range Rover Sport with the driver display and center stack dual screens. I know RR VS Audi has variances. But the RR systems - all of them - sucked. The screens were constantly collecting fingerprints and dust...and the load time (each time you started the car, ETC.) was horrible. Also - the haptics were inconsistent, it easily got confused, and I could not believe how long you had to take your eyes off the road to make ANY changes to anything. I'm an advanced user with short onboarding to get a system. Now I know Audi will be better...but having it for a week confirmed I will never have a car with those screens. I dumped my tuned and wrapped 2016 S6 as I knew I did not want them in the new S6/S7/RS7.

The Q7 infotainment is a near perfect balance of looks, functionality, and speed. The new BMW X5, and the Volvo XC90 RDesign got the dash right. The rest of the RR Sport was also a HUGE disappointment. It only had 6k on the clock, but it rattled, squeaked, the engine and tranny were a disaster in Los Angeles traffic, and it was a gas hog in the worst way.

Either Audi is a better car in EVERY way.
Just my .02.

if someone leases a car and is responsible for a $30,000 total expenditure for the lease period and no more, vs someone who pays $75,000.00 in cash up front, the person laying out $75,000 has much more skin in the game/capital at risk. EOS
This is also getting way off topic from the purpose of my thread: comparing the Q7 v Q8.

+1 on all counts

Thanks, any educated guesses on ETA's? I have a 19 Q7 on order due sometime late this year early next I might want to switch for a Q8 before I take delivery.

Should be by the of the year but really can't say when with any certainty. The sooner the better though because I feel like dealer stock is just Q5s and Q7s at this point.

Thanks. Looking forward to driving/comparing them both back to back.

Just read Q8 gets dual pane glass as part of lux!

It does, just not for NA.

Agreed. Based on the reviews I've seen, the drive will not blow you away. The ride is SUV like and suspension is busy just like the Q7. I think the biggest difference inside will be the touch MMI

IMO the Q8 is nothing more than monkeying of X6 presence in the BMW line of offerings. Nothing revolutionary, but different looks: X5/X6 and Q7/Q8.

And space/cargo capacity.

Yeah, I have the feeling that the two will be very close but the Q7 delivers the better bang for the buck. If I would have to make a decision right know, it would be difficult. Once the Q7 gets the updated MMI for MY20, it will be my favorite again - no question.

From my perspective the Q7 is a family hauler, the Q8 is an oversized sedan. Since I have a family I'd only even think about the Q8 if it were significantly cheaper than the Q7 which it isn't.

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