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FatFreeVW 08-02-2008 01:50 PM

FULL AWE STAGE3, just doesnt feel right...
 
Now granted, I've had my fair share of PULLIN hard cars, but something about the S4 (2000) doesnt feel right.

I have the K04's, manifolds, intercoolers, bipipe, injectors, full twin exhaust, downpipes, MAF, snub mount, short shifter, boost gauge and JUST replaced all 4 02 sensors, rs4 clutch

However, if I race someone else with an 2001 K04 s4 w/ VAST's software, he WALKS ME. (Stock manifolds) but RS4 cams (which havent shown MUCH improvement). Rolling in 3rd @ 60, he passes me FAST.

With the old 02 sensors and CEL i was only able to clock a 12.9 and that was pretty much launching @ full throttle. I have not taken down to the track since replacing the 02 sensors, but its not an 11 sec car like the VAST S4 buddy that i have.

I have a vag-com and I recently downloaded limmewinks (havent used it yet). What blocks should i be logging? If i cant fix this losing problem, water injection is my next solution, but soemthing just doesnt feel right.

Oh and it hits 24-25psi and settles @ 22ish psi.

And if you are wondering, last AWD launch broke my rear driver side coil spring, in half.;)

I always I appreciate any thoughts or suggestions in advance.

Couver 08-02-2008 02:05 PM

AWE with no tweaks and 24-25 psi? MBC or N75 control?
 
I am full AWE Stage3 and am 21 spike taper to 19. I agree AWE Stage3 is not as fast as other's, it is just the nature of their conservative tune.

FatFreeVW 08-02-2008 02:15 PM

N75 Control... would you just recommend i fork over more money to VAST? I can adjust....
 
what is "conservative tuning" (for the basic stuff aka TRIMs and defaults) from the Lemmiwinks.

for 15k I dont want conservative, i want, asswhooping:)

FatFreeVW 08-02-2008 03:02 PM

just logged block 60 (TPS) and its only open to 87.5% even after the adaption
 
time to start hunting how i can change to 100%!

Mandingo® 08-02-2008 04:18 PM

What the hell are you talking about? block 60 tps is not normal to see 87.5%???
 
and it needs to be 100%?

DocSlowMiniPerson 08-02-2008 04:26 PM

AWE's off the shelf kit should *not* make that much boost. They aren't the fastest option, either.

DocSlowMiniPerson 08-02-2008 04:28 PM

VAST, ASP, and EPL offer both local and remote custom tuning. Those are bound to make you quicker.

Couver 08-02-2008 04:45 PM

Just from observation of logs from differnet tuners
 
it seems that those that are faster use 60lb injectors. I know I am at 100% DC at WOT with the 43lb injectors the AWE kit came with. That is the reason I have been looking to change fueling to another tuner that runs 60lb injectors

FatFreeVW 08-02-2008 04:59 PM

Well I dont know, i dont normally check
 
Hence the whole point of this topic. What should I start looking for? Obviously my injector cycle (unknown block) is one of them.

Mandingo® 08-02-2008 05:10 PM

question: "Oh and it hits 24-25psi and settles @ 22ish psi." is that from your boost gauge or
 
some sort of wideband set up with boost sensor?

may be start with some logging first


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