Who would kick down immediately for the STaSIS Street Sport Fixed height system if
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Who would kick down immediately for the STaSIS Street Sport Fixed height system if
I don't represent STaSIS, just like what they have to offer but not their price point.
Would you easily pay $1000 vs $1599? for their
STREET SPORT
STaSIS Fixed Height Custom Damper Kit
Yes they offer a kit for under $1000 but that is a high price point for what appears to be $400 koni yellows and some 380lb hyperco springs.
Just curious, if there was enough people interested in the fixed height system for say $1000 would STaSIS step up and sell them for that price?
I won't get into coilovers that is for a different market and is more then what I would ever use. But I like the option of varied spring rates in the sport street fixed height kit.
Just thoughts.
Don't nail me for being cheap, just asking the question seeing if there is interest and seeing if STaSIS would act on this if there was that much interest? I could totaly just be wasting bandwidth here!
Would you easily pay $1000 vs $1599? for their
STREET SPORT
STaSIS Fixed Height Custom Damper Kit
Yes they offer a kit for under $1000 but that is a high price point for what appears to be $400 koni yellows and some 380lb hyperco springs.
Just curious, if there was enough people interested in the fixed height system for say $1000 would STaSIS step up and sell them for that price?
I won't get into coilovers that is for a different market and is more then what I would ever use. But I like the option of varied spring rates in the sport street fixed height kit.
Just thoughts.
Don't nail me for being cheap, just asking the question seeing if there is interest and seeing if STaSIS would act on this if there was that much interest? I could totaly just be wasting bandwidth here!
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One thing I disagree with...
<i>I won't get into coilovers that is for a different market and is more then what I would ever use. </i>
I think the true magic lies in the shocks they package with their track sport kits. They give you the benefits of owning a performance oriented kit, without giving making you sacrifice the ride comfort. That's something that definitely comes in handy on the street.
I think the true magic lies in the shocks they package with their track sport kits. They give you the benefits of owning a performance oriented kit, without giving making you sacrifice the ride comfort. That's something that definitely comes in handy on the street.
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Are you sure they are the same shocks?
Well, the internals at least, since that's what really matters.
The pictures on their website suggest they are different shocks, but the pictures really don't say anything about the internals.
The wording "Custom Valved" is pretty broad, and I'm wondering if there is a range if adjustability that they can work with on the VM4 shocks packaged with the track sport kits, that they can't adjust with on the street sport kit. For instance, the rate of the digressive valving is something they worked hard at perfecting with the track sport kits. Did they also apply the *same* changes to the street sport kits?
According to what you're saying, the only difference between the Track and Street Sport kits is height adjustability, but I think there is more to it than that.
The pictures on their website suggest they are different shocks, but the pictures really don't say anything about the internals.
The wording "Custom Valved" is pretty broad, and I'm wondering if there is a range if adjustability that they can work with on the VM4 shocks packaged with the track sport kits, that they can't adjust with on the street sport kit. For instance, the rate of the digressive valving is something they worked hard at perfecting with the track sport kits. Did they also apply the *same* changes to the street sport kits?
According to what you're saying, the only difference between the Track and Street Sport kits is height adjustability, but I think there is more to it than that.
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They are the same *valving*. I should have been more specific.
You are correct in that the shock bodies for our Track SPort systems are threaded for the coilovers while the Street Sport system has fixed perches. I believe that the picture is dated because they have changed the perches to now use a similar spring to the ones on the Track Sport setup.
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The 2 main differences as I understand it are the height adjustability and a wider range of spring
rates. I had a couple of discussions with STaSIS before I did my upgrade and was informed that the differences were were small. I did desire the ability to more finely adjust the ride height and it is also the case that installation requirements are drastically different as you do not need a spring compressor to work on the adjustable coilovers. The fixed height system is actually more complicated to install because of that requirement.
I like the fact that I can set the ride height myself and have already taken advantage of this. It's a pretty easy task.
I like the fact that I can set the ride height myself and have already taken advantage of this. It's a pretty easy task.
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The wider range of spring rates suggests to me that the internals are different.
So the question in my mind is exactly what are the differences in the internals, and what does that translate to in real world use (besides the ability to handle a broader spectrum of spring rates).
It just doesn't make sense to me that the extra $600+ goes to pay for threaded shock bodies, and nothing else.
I spent 1/2 hr on the phone yesterday with Ryan (brakes)...so I say it's your turn to call him! :-P
It just doesn't make sense to me that the extra $600+ goes to pay for threaded shock bodies, and nothing else.
I spent 1/2 hr on the phone yesterday with Ryan (brakes)...so I say it's your turn to call him! :-P
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Maybe of we are lucky, Ryan will pipe up and answer us here :)
You may be correct and there may be more differences at a deeper level than STaSIS usually gives us in our typical phone conversations, but when I was talking with them about doing my upgrade, they did suggest that the systems had an awful lot in common.
Height adjustability is not really all that trivial - when I had the Street Sport system, we actually had a lot of problems trying to get the height correct - there was a 1/4 inch difference in the height of the passenger side of the car from the driver's side and it also turns out that there are some odd differences in the rear between some of the S4 variants (2000 vs 2001 vs 2001.5) that require the use of spacers to get the rear end to work too. I love the fact that I can dial this in to exactly what I need without tearing it all apart again.
As you can tell, I did think this was worth the extra bucks and gladly dropped the difference in the table for the upgrade.
Height adjustability is not really all that trivial - when I had the Street Sport system, we actually had a lot of problems trying to get the height correct - there was a 1/4 inch difference in the height of the passenger side of the car from the driver's side and it also turns out that there are some odd differences in the rear between some of the S4 variants (2000 vs 2001 vs 2001.5) that require the use of spacers to get the rear end to work too. I love the fact that I can dial this in to exactly what I need without tearing it all apart again.
As you can tell, I did think this was worth the extra bucks and gladly dropped the difference in the table for the upgrade.
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