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Old May 16, 2000 | 09:46 AM
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Default "L" and "T" TBBs

I understand that Audi replaced the old "L" TBB in the 2.7T with a new "T" one. Anyone knows:

1. What's the difference between them?

2. Would a car manufactured ~Jan/Feb 2000 have the new or the old TBB?

3. Is it possible to check which one I have without taking it apart?

4. Is it easy to get a "T" TBB? Audi? Clair?

5. Should one preventively replace an untorn L TBB?

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Old May 16, 2000 | 10:30 AM
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Default My dealer experience today...(more)

Today I went for an appointment with my local dealer to have the L TBB replaced with the T version that I received from Clair parts last week (dealer was on back order). I had stopped into the dealership last week because my 2.7T tip had been running slower for the last 10 days. I wasn't sure it was the TBB but just wanted to have it looked at and replaced (preventitive).

This morning I went in with the new TBB in hand and a detailed printout of the procedure from Audizone. The front service shop manager (a very abbrasive guy) came out and said that this was a very long/involved procedure (15mins according to Audizone though, and that since my check engine light didn't come on they won't do anything except try to duplicate my problem with the acceleration. He had his shop mgr (a really nice guy), take a drive in my car with me and he couldn't notice any significant loss of acceleration (of course he wouldn't). The shop manager sat with me for a half an hour talking about Audi's/VW's (very informative), but basically they wouldn't do anything to my car unless the engine light came on. Also I couldn't get the control module codes done for the auto locking and remote window functions because it would make the dealer liable for a non-factory setting on the car.

With all that said I'm left with a new TBB in hand, same control module settings, and some more knowledge about Audi/VW.

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Old May 16, 2000 | 03:04 PM
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Default Re: My dealer experience today...(more)

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The reply is nice, but without a dealer name and location how is this going to help out the forum readers?
It would be nice to be able to tell the good dealers from the bad.

From my 1 service visit, I would say Laurel in Westmont Il. gets a 90 out of 100.
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Old May 16, 2000 | 04:46 PM
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Oops, sorry...the dealer is Cherry Hill Imports, in NJ (about 20mins from Philadelphia). The service shop crew is great, but the 1 front shop mgr could be a little more polite when a concerned owner comes in with his 45K dollar automobile and detailed info on what could be wrong. The first thing he said to me in passing when I came in with the new TBB in hand was "No way that's going to do anything" my $.02...
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Old May 16, 2000 | 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Laurel Audi in Westmont- A few questions

I was happy to see that you were pretty pleased with your service experience there as that is where I ordered my 2001 2.7t from. Do they provide loaner cars? Just wondering as I live about 40 min. north of there. Did you buy your car there as well? Thanks in advance for the input.

Nancy

Anxiously awaiting the arrival of a 2001 2.7t Ming Blue/ Melange sometime this summer!
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Old May 16, 2000 | 10:17 PM
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Default Sorry...but he is a putz

I replace my throttle body boot once..and inspected it two other times (by taking it totally OFF the car). Feel underneath it with your finger..if their is oil and dirt...the thing is leaking and it has a tear.

If they persist...just install it yourself. This kinda stuff REALLY pisses me off.

I fully understand what you are going thru...I have BTDT.<p><a href="http://registry.audiworld.com/audi/registry/details.asp?car=3821"><br><br>
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Old May 17, 2000 | 06:46 AM
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Default Re: Laurel Audi in Westmont- A few questions

Nancy
Yes you can get a car, but I don`t know if or what they charge. I waited for mine. It was an oil change, lock reprograming, and had them check the TSB`s. Call Ed Skibinski 630 655 6700 he is my service advisor if you have any Q`s.
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Old May 17, 2000 | 12:18 PM
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Default Re: NANCY1 Laurel Audi in Westmont- A few questions

Nancy1,

I ordered a 2001 2.7T as well from Laurel in Westmont. I have been promised a 7/1 delivery, and if not, they will provide me a car until it comes in. Are you sure about that increase in warrenty coverage? Did you order (or try to) the sports package?
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Default Re: TBB Replacement

I too noticed a significant drop in power recently (S4 w/"L" part & 6k mi)& purchased a "T" boot from Clair.

I decided it wouldn't be worth trying to get a dealer to replace the part & I didn't want to do it myself. Bought the part from Clair & had a local shop (Dynospot in MV CA ) replace the boot & use the VAG tool to reset the operational parameters (I did not have any error codes)as additional insurance.

The old part had small cracks, but it really didn't look bad...not what I expected to see. At any rate, the power is back now, so the old boot was either leaking thru the cracks or the clamps had loosened enough to mess the sensor/airflow.

I would suggest finding a local shop that handles chips (Dynospot does GIAC)....they probably have replaced a few already so it will be a quick job for them & less aggravation for you.

good luck!
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