any timing belt DIY'ers here?
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any timing belt DIY'ers here?
Howdy folks,
I'm picking up a very nice black on black 01' 2.7t in a few days, in need of a timing belt and a smog pump combination-valve(?).
Can anyone give some insight on these 2 items?
I searched, looks like most people take em in for the (timing belt) service.
-I'll be doing all repairs myself so I was just hoping there were a few shade-tree types round' here.
Thanks,
Marty
I'm picking up a very nice black on black 01' 2.7t in a few days, in need of a timing belt and a smog pump combination-valve(?).
Can anyone give some insight on these 2 items?
I searched, looks like most people take em in for the (timing belt) service.
-I'll be doing all repairs myself so I was just hoping there were a few shade-tree types round' here.
Thanks,
Marty
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It's easier than on an I-5...and about the same on an older V6, IMO.
Putting the front end into 'service position' is a must (and pretty cool). And borrow a timing bar...might be the same as older V6s, but I dunno.
I thought there was a 2.7 timing belt writeup somewhere. <searches bookmarks>
I thought there was a 2.7 timing belt writeup somewhere. <searches bookmarks>
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just did my t-belt service twice. thats a good write up. I highly suggest using cambar/locking pin
I did the t-belt job at 80k when I first got my car. The new tensioner I had installed failed, so I had to do the job twice.
Make sure you get a good quality tensioner, as I've heard here others have had the same problem.
I'd probably suggest just ordering the parts kit from ECS, as I used a local foreign auto place that guaranteed OEM quality, but weren't that great.
I ordered the timing belt tool kit from el paso tool on ebay. They were baum tools, and cost ~110 shipped.<ul><li><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Audi-3391-3242-Camshaft-Timing-Cam-Engine-Tools_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ002QQit emZ120144974821">ebay cam tools</a></li></ul>
Make sure you get a good quality tensioner, as I've heard here others have had the same problem.
I'd probably suggest just ordering the parts kit from ECS, as I used a local foreign auto place that guaranteed OEM quality, but weren't that great.
I ordered the timing belt tool kit from el paso tool on ebay. They were baum tools, and cost ~110 shipped.<ul><li><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Audi-3391-3242-Camshaft-Timing-Cam-Engine-Tools_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ002QQit emZ120144974821">ebay cam tools</a></li></ul>
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Location?
There are some helpful write-ups on this site, but they also contain a fair amount to poor and/or inaccurate info:
The nose of the car does NOT need to be torn all apart. Service position is far enough. It's crazy to do all that extra work.
Cam adjuster seals should always be done with the belt, as should cam seals and valve cover gaskets.
You should always use the timing belt tools. Unlike the older cars, cam timing is infinitely adjustable on the 30v; the cam sprocket is not keyed to the cam. It is impossible to properly adjust cam timing without the tools.
It helps to have someone with experience look over your shoulder, but the job is doable by someone with time, sense, and a little experience.
The nose of the car does NOT need to be torn all apart. Service position is far enough. It's crazy to do all that extra work.
Cam adjuster seals should always be done with the belt, as should cam seals and valve cover gaskets.
You should always use the timing belt tools. Unlike the older cars, cam timing is infinitely adjustable on the 30v; the cam sprocket is not keyed to the cam. It is impossible to properly adjust cam timing without the tools.
It helps to have someone with experience look over your shoulder, but the job is doable by someone with time, sense, and a little experience.
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Ann Arbor, MI -Thanks for the information everyone! very helpful
Now I need to research about this "service position". -I suppose another Bently is on my list, I have almost the whole library now hehe
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You'll want the Bentley for sure.
Service position:
1. Remove the front bumper.
2. Remove the bumper mounts and screw the bolts from step 1 into one or the holes on each side.
3. Detach the upper radiator hose at the radiator.
4. Unbolt the radiator support and slide it forward on the longer bolts (from step 2).
This buys you 6 or so inches between the radiator and the front of the engine; more than enough room to do the job without disturbing the AC, wiring, headlights, etc.
1. Remove the front bumper.
2. Remove the bumper mounts and screw the bolts from step 1 into one or the holes on each side.
3. Detach the upper radiator hose at the radiator.
4. Unbolt the radiator support and slide it forward on the longer bolts (from step 2).
This buys you 6 or so inches between the radiator and the front of the engine; more than enough room to do the job without disturbing the AC, wiring, headlights, etc.
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not too different... i didn't have to loosen power steering pump bracket,
There was no intercooler stuff in the way. The 2.7t has a different fan, and I noticed some of the electrical connections were different. My cover near the power steering res. had a lot more connections, at least 6.
2.8 is probably about 15-20 minutes easier of a job, I guess.
2.8 is probably about 15-20 minutes easier of a job, I guess.