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Plenum drain = Cowl drain? Drains for air box? Suggestions?

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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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Default Plenum drain = Cowl drain? Drains for air box? Suggestions?

This might just be a case of terminology...

As I mentioned in the thread below, the Audi dealer found that clogged "plenum drains" & the worn air box intake seal were causing water to get in through the heater box intake. The "official" fix would be to reseal the air box intake -- a procedure that involves taking off the dash, etc. They sketched a diagram of how the water rises and gets in. The repair would be over $1,500.

When I asked if there were any "unofficial" fixes, it was mentioned that it would be worthwhile checking online with DIY A8 owners. An offhand comment was something like, "I don't know whether a couple of 1/8" holes in the plenum would help or hurt."

I've checked the Audipages drain cleaning section and found references to the A/C evap drains & the "cowl" drains. Are either of these what the dealer calls "plenum drains?"

Does anyone have the Audi factory instructions for clearing the "plenum" and/or "cowl" drains?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 03:47 AM
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Default Re: Plenum drain = Cowl drain? Yes, correct.

Click on the A8 line in my sig. There's a set of instructions for cleaning both the cowl/plenum drains, and the A/C evap drains, at Audipages.

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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 05:18 AM
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Default $1500? I'll do it for tree fiddy

That would be the easiest $350 I ever made. Follow the procedures on audipages and with the money saved, have a few bottles of high end champagne on me!
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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You'd reseal the air box / heater box intake for that? They showed where it is behind the dash.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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Just pull the rubber drains out. That's what I did who needs the pretty rubber
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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How do you get at 'em? These are the cowl / plenum drains, not the evap drains.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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reach up beside the trans and clips the ends off. no more clogs.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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Default There are 4 cowl drains, and 2 evap drains.

The evap drains are on each side of the driveshaft hump, in the footwell.

Your air seal is not "worn". Every A8 leaks there. It's just bad design. Pay them the money, and the next time the drains clog it will STILL LEAK. Hell man, if it fills up enough, the water comes pouring out of the rear passenger air vents!!

The 2 easy to access cowl drains are in each front tire wheel well. You can see them rather easily with a flashlight.

The 2 center cowl drains are more problematic, since they are hidden from above and exit over the transmission .. completely hidden from both sides.

You have to use an piece of bent copper or aluminum tubing as an extension for an air hose, and snake it down into the plenum until you find the 2 vents, then blast them good.

The only long-term fix is to garage your A8! Stop getting leaves in your airbox 8)
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Default Thanks for info. I actually do garage my car @ home, but...

since I live in a semi-rural area of WA, there are plenty of opportunities to be near trees and bleepin' pine needles the rest of the time.

What about Angus' suggestion of clipping the cowl / plenum drain ends?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Default You can cut them and get back to us on wether it helps ...

... dunno.
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