POLL: CHIP.. GIAC, APR or MTM.. Which one would you go with and why?

 

I am interested in your poll - as soon as I get my feet wet with, and break in this car (only 331 miles), I want to chip. I am curious as to why you did not include Upsolute? They seem to make a fine product, and there is a distributor local here in Central Florida.

 

APR has the best claimed results, i plan to get theirs

 

Garrett offers more performance for the 180 and also for the 225. He is not as conservative as the others.

Don't be fooled when someone tells you that MTM has a direct connection to Audi in Germany, that is just not true. Meyer, the M in MTM used to work for Quattro GmbH, the tuning arm of Audi of Germany. That was more than 10 years ago! Others will tell you that MTM uses the Audi of Germany wind tunnel to test their stuff out . . . so do 100's of other companies! That is how large companies recoup their investments in those multi-million dollar wind tunnels!

Audi of Germany will not and can not give out the source code for their ECU's. MTM like APR and Garrett and SuperChips and AmD and all of the other chip tuners throughout the world read the code from the Audi ECU's. Nobody is getting that code for free from an Audi Engineer!

You will not go wrong by getting any of the these 3 ECU's. The claimed numbers are all very similar, but Garrett is the least conservative of the 3, where I believe that APR is the most conservative. MTM chips are created in Germany then fine-tuned at Hoppen Motorsports in Florida by one or two engineers. Garrett Lim does all of the chip tuning himself and APR has 2 or 3 engineers on their staff.

MTM does not do any custom programming if you think you might need that in the future. APR does and so does Garrett.

No matter which chip you go with, make certain you eventually get a spare ECU. I know that APR sells the EMCS module and I am sure it works great. It can't do anything for you if the dealer decides to swap ECU's because they can't figure out something and think an ECU swap will solve a problem! If they do that then you are out the money you just paid for the chip! Not worth it to me.

Good luck in your search.

 

I am not saying that this is true. Its just what I was told. I've only tried the MTM and love it.

 

The master has spoken! And then there was life! Amen, Hallelulah!

 

And what would the claim be?

 

Unfortunately, there is more to the picture than just raw results. For example, I had a Superchip for my SVT Lightning. It had a killer street program, however, there was also a great dragstrip program available. Others who had chips for the Lightning took things a bit too far, and the result was pinging even with 93 octane gas. Claimed results are interesting, but safety margins must, to a certain extent, be maintained or the owner can ultimately become a very unahppy camper with a piece of $hit for an engine.

 

Herr Abt knows and Ing Mayer knows. AG can be quite an incestuous organization as business and politics mix differently in Germany. Sometimes blood is thicker than business. IMO, I wouldn't discount any rumours without hard facts, but not state that rumours are fact as well.