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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:40 PM
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Okay, right about now I'm feeling pretty stupid and frustrated, but I figured it would be worth a shot asking this question here. Normally, I edit my video on the PC, render it, and then either store Quicktime movies on CD or output the movie to DV tape. In the latter case, I then take the DV tape and connect the camera to my VCR to output to a VHS tape. Soooooo, I figure that I should be able to connect everything up and skip the DV tape step in the middle. The camera is connected via firewire (IEEE1394) to the PC, and the cable from the camera's audio/video out port has two plugs I am plugging into the VCR 'line in' connections. I select 'print to video' in Premiere, hit record on the VCR, can watch the movie on the camera, but NOTHING goes to the tape. I feel like I'm missing something really simple here but I'm at a wall. H E L P , P L E A S E !!!!! :-O
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:43 PM
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Try changing the input on the VCR to Line 1 or Line 2.
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:46 PM
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Default Digital Video has to be converted to analog for normal VTR.

basically a dsp does this. Your camera has the chip so either do a flow through your camera and it's vid out to your VHS or record to cam and output. Only other method is a card with a dsp that will allow it such as a targa board. Lots of dough to do a nice uncompressed video though. That why dig vid is great now.
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:46 PM
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Default Thanks. I'll give it a shot (after dinner .... I need a breather ;-) ) Also ...

the cable from the camera has one red and one white plug. I've tried them each as both audio and video (just in case) but it still didn't make a difference.
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:48 PM
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Default I presume that that is what Premiere does in its 'print to video' option for exporting. (more)

Just rechecked in the manual (yes, I'm so desperate I'm actually reading the manual!), and it says you can record the edited program onto videotape directly by recording it on a connected analog VCR. I'm pretty sure I've hosed up the connections somehow.
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 03:56 PM
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Default Print to video is simply, output this file as a specific type of video file

prior version did not support dv file format. Since now it does you can edit dv natively and print to video in that format. You can also print to avi, motion jpeg, targa, mov etc..

To print to video to an analog device will require certain hardware (a special card with a rca or bnc or s-video connection and possible memory to cache the images for large files/sequences also digital signal processor/dsp). For DV it goes straight through firewire to your camera.
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:00 PM
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Default See what I added below ... It does say that you can do it, and normally I don't have a problem ...

copying the output from the DV to the VCR. This time I'm just trying to avoid the DV tape in the middle.
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:08 PM
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Default I need to think more about the process and how it treats the conversion from DV to the analog output

Ok I found a link and it involves resetting your dsp to allow a passthrough but it seems they are going the opposite direction. I would look through the site for other questions and issues. Obviously the new digital stuff is more involved chip wise than my experience with analog stuff. Also It is important to realize your camera may have or not have certain functions and features others do in certain situation. You may also want to do a search of your camera vendors site by searching for "dv to analog pass through" and see what records come up.<ul><li><a href="http://www.coastweb.de/dv/dvboard2001/1762.html">http://www.coastweb.de/dv/dvboard2001/1762.html</a</li></ul>
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:21 PM
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Default Thanks. Any insights you can provide would be appreciated. I'll switch around plugs in the meantime

and see if that helps at all.
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Old Jun 28, 2001 | 04:24 PM
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Default I looked through the Optura pdf for clues and my final thought are as follows...

1) The viewfinder will display the image because it's a digital screen and a digital signal. Output through the rca or s-video (analog) ports would involve an dig/an conversion to display or transfer to an analog recorder.

2) The dsp or dig/an conversion may not be enabled in your camera until recording or playback. That is the question and I would call/contact Canon and specifically ask. (Your VHS can do it because it is not doing a digital conversion such as the cable tv pass through).

This may be an issue with consumer dv cams as opposed to prosumer such as the Canon XL1 and pro cams which usually feature a passthrough so a director or shooter can monitor the signal with a local monitor instead of just a viewfinder at all times (they probably have a couple of chips to handle this).<ul><li><a href="http://www.canondv.com/pdf/ins_optura.pdf">http://www.canondv.com/pdf/ins_optura.pdf</a</li></ul>
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